BLACKFIRE Total Polish N Seal - BRAND NEW PRODUCT

Todd Helme said:
I would rather somebody independent post their results, I don't want to get into direct comparisons (that's your guys job!). I will say that the durability of BFTPS is quite good for an AIO.
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Someone may end up beating me to the punch but I have a few AIO to compare to (not poliseal) I will post my thoughts.
 
I have some Poli seal to compare it too. I just need to find time to wash my truck and do a side by side on the bed
 
Todd Helme said:
Yes if you use it with too aggressive of a pad you will get some marring. I have used it with a microfiber finishing pad and it worked well.




Alternatively you can wipe off the trace residue with the new BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond Polymer Spray, which will increase the durability by placing polycharged Wet Diamond Polymers directly on top. These polymers will 'fill in the gaps' so to speak and the products will cure together.
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I want to make sure I understand this Todd-

Before I buff I can spray the WD spray and then buff?

I'll try that also. Looks like the bed of my truck will be split into several sections for tests and review
 
Thanks for the details Todd. I can't wait to try this out. I can think of a few places on a vehicle this would come in handy for me!
 
I did a test section by hand using this product over the weekend, cleaned the paint really well and left the surface slick. I did not layer that section with the new formula BFWD All Paint Protection. I plan to use this by machine in the near future, and thanks to this thread I have some guidance on pad selection. Thanks for the info Todd.
 
rwright said:
I did a test section by hand using this product over the weekend, cleaned the paint really well and left the surface slick. I did not layer that section with the new formula BFWD All Paint Protection. I plan to use this by machine in the near future, and thanks to this thread I have some guidance on pad selection. Thanks for the info Todd.
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Where did you get the sample? I want some. :D
 
Did I read correctly that you need to let the BFTPNS cure for 4-8 hours before topping it with bfwd? I am looking at this combo to possibly replace my Klasse twins. But I like that Klasse AIO has no cure time to it...

Any chance of having a flash cure like Klasse AIO?
 
TroyScherer said:
Did I read correctly that you need to let the BFTPNS cure for 4-8 hours before topping it with bfwd??
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Allow to cure for four to eight hours if possible before topping with additional products.

This looks like a very nice product I'm sure it will find its way to my house at some point.
 
rzatch said:
Allow to cure for four to eight hours if possible before topping with additional products.

This looks like a very nice product I'm sure it will find its way to my house at some point.
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I think you missed the point of my post.... If you have to wait 4 hrs before you can top it with even bfwd then that could be to much time on time limited detail.
 
No I didn't miss your point. I only answered your question whether or not he said you needed to wait. And yes on a time line detail that could be a problem.
 
TroyScherer said:
Did I read correctly that you need to let the BFTPNS cure for 4-8 hours before topping it with bfwd? I am looking at this combo to possibly replace my Klasse twins. But I like that Klasse AIO has no cure time to it...

Any chance of having a flash cure like Klasse AIO?
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It could take several hours for the polymers to fully cross link. However I have found that topping immediately (because it is using the same Wet Diamond polymers, offers benefits as well.

From an earlier post....

Yes BFWD can be applied directly on top. BFWD and BFTPS both use the same Wet Diamond polymers, so you will not get any degradation of the durability by using BFTPS first.

With an abrasive all-in-one you end up removing a trace amount (because the Wet Diamond polymers react with the abrasives, in this case a very small amount) of the sealant when you remove it. It's simply unavoidable. Applying BFWD over the top will help fill in the gaps.

Alternatively you can wipe off the trace residue with the new BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond Polymer Spray, which will increase the durability by placing polycharged Wet Diamond Polymers directly on top. These polymers will 'fill in the gaps' so to speak and the products will cure together.

So that its clear, for the absolute in layering you should wait (if possible). However wiping the paint down with BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond Polymer Spray or adding addition Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection right after TPS is only going to strengthen the initial coat. Does that make sense?
 
Yep does to me. I figured they were using the same base polymers so they would work together along with the rest of the line.
 
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