BFWD vs WGDG

Nice to see alot of folks in this thread, looks like these products need a "Time for a face off" like GH has mention soon by our great members here. You all know my answer.......................:D
 
It's a lite blue and some folks say it's a little runny, because it's a oil in water emulsion sealant that's safe for all Automotive Finishes.
 
mwtaco said:
Of course, if you have other WG or BF products, staying in the same family would be nice since the products may work better with each other.
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That's exactly what I was thinking and the reason for not getting the MS yet as i don't have any WD. It will probably work just as good over the WG sealant but I do like to use them in their own family although the WGDGPS worked just fine over the BF polish.
 
mwtaco said:
Agree. I like to try everything, but cost is one of the reasons I havent tried much WG and Pinnacle products. Lots of other good products with better price points to try first.

I do have some small sample bottles from AG though. Will have to request the WGDGPS.
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I usually ask for the WGDGPS as my sample when I order - I now have 8 oz of it, all for free :D I might also do a comparison of the two, as I really liked BFWD when I used it.
 
i have a sample bottle of the wg that i use on my motorcycle helmets and i really like it, but for the price, i'll stay with bfwd as my favorite. i don't think the wg looks any better than bfwd.
 
It was 55 here today so I did a complete CGCWC stripping solution followed by BFWD.

BF goes on so easy that I did the entire car and let it haze. Before buffing, I spritzed each section with DGS and buffed away.

What a shine!

Tomorrow the MS.
 
Glad to see Im not the only one that wondered about these 2. I really like WG, if someone wants to trade a sample of WGPS for BFWD Id like to do a side by side, send me a PM and we can swap.

Ive heard some say BF dusts when you remove it. Comments on this?
 
classofshine said:
Glad to see Im not the only one that wondered about these 2. I really like WG, if someone wants to trade a sample of WGPS for BFWD Id like to do a side by side, send me a PM and we can swap.

Ive heard some say BF dusts when you remove it. Comments on this?
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I have never had it dust for me.
 
BobbyG said:
It's interesting to hear some of the comments regarding both products.

Both products are in the sealant category and I'd be curious to see how close the two formulations really are.

I've tried both products and while some may find this odd, I wasn't overly impressed with Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant. It went on easy enough but didn't seem to provide the protection I was expecting especially for it's cost.

BlackFire Wet Diamond Sealant was the second BlackFire product I tried and I was impressed with all aspects including the shine and protection.

Cost is a huge factor. Many products, especially Wolfgang and Pinnacle, are overpriced and fail to provide the additional bang for the buck...
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Great post Bobby. I have to agree with you here on the cost factor. I really don't use sealants much. UPGP and WGDGPS are the only 2 I own and use.

One of the first products I used years ago was Collinite 845. 845 is cheap. When I found out about sealants, their claim to fame was durability........well I had a product that was Nuba(or I thought just a nuba at the time and now I realize it is a hybrid), half the price of a sealant and just as or in most cases more durable than a sealant. So from that point on, I was never interested in sealants. I still prefer the look of a nuba but the sealants have made major steps in their apperance since first being introduced. Just my opinion and my partial reasoning for being biased to the nuba end of the LSP.
 
Ive heard some say BF dusts when you remove it. Comments on this?
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The only time I ever had BF dust was when I over applied it. It spreads so easy that you hardly have to use any at all :rockon
 
rzatch said:
That's exactly what I was thinking and the reason for not getting the MS yet as i don't have any WD. It will probably work just as good over the WG sealant but I do like to use them in their own family although the WGDGPS worked just fine over the BF polish.
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i got my MS in the Wet Ice over Fire package. Picked it up here at autopia car care store on sale over the holidays. great deal...for just a few dollars more than the MS regular price, i got the whole kit.

hopefully, they'll blow out sale all the BF products. that's what i'm twiddling my fingers waiting for.
 
Mr. Gloss said:
Ive heard some say BF dusts when you remove it. Comments on this?

Really?
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I have seen had it dust on me few times w my black car but I applied it yeaterday to my dads red car and did not notice any dust not sure if paint color had anything to do with it
 
classofshine said:
Blackfire white diamond vs Wolfgange paint sealant, anyone every do a side by side. I really like the WGPS, easy on and off, durability is nice and it almost looks like a carnuba. Input?
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I had planned on doing a side by side comparison. I myself was curious as well. Just need to get around to doing it.
 
Both a great sealants. WGDGPS is pricy though when compared to a lot of the other sealants out there. I do use both myself, and I will try to describe the slight differences in each product.

The Wolfgang product has a lot going for it. I myself reach for it as a sealant for dark or mid tone colored cars. I find the WGDGPS is unlike a lot of other sealants in that its final look is more like a carnauba wax in the fact that it offers more jetting in the color field then most sealants do. By jetting, I mean it gives the paint color a more intense look and warmth that is normally reserved for a carnauba wax instead of the more sharp reflections that a typical sealant gives. This, doubled with its longevity (I have seen it go for at least 6 months in FL weather) makes it a fantastic alternative for your solid black or red car that you do not wish to wax every other month, and do not mind loosing some color depth used by a sealant.

It goes on fairly easily, with little effort, but you have to use a very small amount. I also find it has a slightly longer cure time then other sealants ( around 45 minutes.. of course depending on your environment) and of course, if you wish to top it with a wax, I let it stand overnight before this next step.

If the WGDGPS is more like a carnauba wax, then the Wet Diamond sealant is its opposite.
I find that on darker colors, the WD gives a more sharp look that really stands out. It can "feel" a bit colder on dark or mid tone colors, but the reflectivity and approach of the paint is more intense. The lines of the body stand out more, while the paint just looks like its ready to attack.

The application of the WD is similar to the WFDGPS in the amount you use, but the similarities stop there. It cures much faster, allowing you to remove it in about 15-30 minutes (once again depending on environment) and if you are going to be topping it with Midnight Sun (and if you have a red / orange / black pearlescent color, you should be... no questions asked) you only have to wait about 8 hours or so. Which makes it fantastic that you can apply the WD in the morning.. finish everything else up and later that day get your wax on.

In regards to dusting, I have not come across it on either sealant. If you are using the small amount you should be, it will not dust.

The cost factor is the major player here. For the same 16oz, you are looking at a $20 difference for the WGDGPS. Is it worth it?

For me, I like to have both on hand for the reason stated above. If I have a client who wants that length of protection, but does not care for the razor sharp look of a sealant, I will go with the Wolfgang.

If I get a car painted in a mid tone / dark pearlescent, you can bet it will get treated with WD. Nothing else comes close to this sealant for the look these paints deserve.

Now, to throw a wrench in the works. :D

With the release of CG's Blacklight, I find myself reaching for the WFDGPS far less. The backlight has the beautiful jetting factor, but with no effort to apply and top with (15 minutes cure time and about 1 hour wait to top!!!) and it being cheaper, (and smells wonderful I might add) it is the clear winner for the "carnauba effect" sealant.
 
Reality33 said:
The Wolfgang product has a lot going for it. I myself reach for it as a sealant for dark or mid tone colored cars. I find the WGDGPS is unlike a lot of other sealants in that its final look is more like a carnauba wax in the fact that it offers more jetting in the color field then most sealants do. By jetting, I mean it gives the paint color a more intense look and warmth that is normally reserved for a carnauba wax instead of the more sharp reflections that a typical sealant gives.
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If you swapped the descriptions, I would agree with most everything. It is interesting how we have different impressions.

I think one key variable is maybe not everyone has the opinion of what carnuaba looks like. Given that carnaubas always have additives (polymers, etc) this may be one key reason since in reality they are hybrids but then sealants vary too.
 
I have BFWD and really like it. I also have a sample of Wolfgang and have not used it yet. This thread is making me want to use it to compare the 2 more!
 
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