best wax for black?

WaxManRonnie said:
Why do you say Z5 looks better than Z2?

Both are suppose to be used. Z5 being applied

1st. I've used it on my black cherry Grand Prix.

I haven't found anything that will beat it yet.

To the OP I say save your money on PInnacle.

I'm no hater of the product. I've owned it. But for the

price you pay, Nattys Blue & Red are as good.

If you look at them side by side, you won't see a difference

in either product. Also the Pinnacle can attract a lot of dust.

I didn't like that at all.

Just my .02.
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To me, Z2 looks like it sits on top of the paint, great on lighter colors, but on darks, it just has that laminated look on dark blue and black. Z5 seems to be a bit more deep. A lot of people just use Z5 with nothing else.
 
I never used souveren or blackfire before, complete newbie, but someone stated you gotta reapply every month>? How many full car applications can I count on, w/ a small sedan basically a MK5 Jetta?
 
jrelh said:
I never used souveren or blackfire before, complete newbie, but someone stated you gotta reapply every month>? How many full car applications can I count on, w/ a small sedan basically a MK5 Jetta?
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If you are worried about those things, Pinnacle Souveran is not for you. PS is a great show car wax, it is not a daily driver wax and unless you spend a couple of days polishing your paint, its not going to look anymore amazing than a $10 bottle of wax.
 
Random thoughts from somebody whose black car days are basically behind him (does the Carbon Metallic on the Yukon count? I wouldn't think so..):



Souveran is the standard answer but if you have to think for even a moment about the cost then I sure wouldn't spend that kind of money on *any* wax. If you don't care about the cost and don't mind redoing it all the time, then try it just to see what it's all about. It *is* a unique product.



Meguiar's #26 has a very nice "classic carnauba wax" look on colors like black and it's cheap.



Zaino (oh-so-popular on black Impala SS cars) has a unique look that you'll either like or dislike, usually with little middle ground.



>90% of it is the paint's condition anyhow, so IMO the best wax for black is the one that's on a car that's basically marring-free day in, day out ;) If you have marring on a regular basis you might oughta have different concerns than which wax to use.





lazzman said:
...By the way I always remove fresh wax with a Zymol micro wipe, they are the best and will not strip away freshly applied wax like Microfiber clothes. You can also use a thick cotton terry towel.



Trust me microfiber strips off a lot of the fresh wax, I did detailed tests and proved it to myself. Just a suggestion... :werd:
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Interesting. In my controlled testing, none of my buffing media made any difference in that regard, my plush MFs didn't cause any discernible differences compared to low/no-nap MF, cotton, or anything else (nor did machine vs. hand buffing in most, but not all, cases); but I didn't test the Zymol Micro Wipe. In what way are they different from other buffing media?
 
yakky said:
If you are worried about those things, Pinnacle Souveran is not for you. PS is a great show car wax, it is not a daily driver wax and unless you spend a couple of days polishing your paint, its not going to look anymore amazing than a $10 bottle of wax.
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Thanks for advice, I guess I'd be better off w/ just a good sealant instead of waxes than for daily drivers?
 
jrelh said:
Thanks for advice, I guess I'd be better off w/ just a good sealant instead of waxes than for daily drivers?
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Yeah, about the only wax that is really good for daily drivers is Megs #16. Collinite 845IW is great, but it has some magic up its sleave and its wax status is often debated. There are so many good sealants out now that look almost as good as a good quality carnauba and actually stay looking good much longer.
 
I just finished this one. This is from a clients vehicl

e. We agreed to go ahead and do a side by side comparison of half the hood #16 and half Supernatural just to see what we came up with. Keep in mind that this car looked about the same after alot of prep. Both of these are over a sealant that sat for 48 hours. Driver's side=Dodo Supernatural and other side is #16. The rest of the car is all #16. I do prefer #26 on black but we were going for longer protection being that this one is on a ship overseas right now and will be parked outside by the Atlantic Ocean for awhile. This is not in complete sunlight, and didn't have the car the next day so I couldn't get any really good LSP sun shots.



Side Angle

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Side view

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Front view

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I'm running an experiment right now on my company truck that's black, with all Meg's LSP's on one side and all Zaino on the other. I'll post those up when I'm finished if I ever have the time.
 
I'm running an experiment right now on my company truck that's black, with all Meg's LSP's on one side and all Zaino on the other. I'll post those up when I'm finished if I ever have the time.



WOW, Bullitt21! What great pics! I would love to see the results of your next experiment soon. How did you prep that paint to look sooo goood?
 
jrelh said:
..I guess I'd be better off w/ just a good sealant instead of waxes than for daily drivers?
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IME sealants don't offer much of an advantage over Collinite waxes unless the sealants are layered. And sealants are generally quite unforgiving of any flaws.
 
blinkme323 said:
What would you guys say is the best "over the counter" wax for a black car?
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That I've used - Meg's Gold Class, M26 may be better.



For something from the internet, Pinnacle Souveran is unbeatable.
 
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