Barrett Jackson Swirl-o-Rama

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medic159

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Has anyone else noticed the deplorable condition of many of thes big bucks cars being auctioned at Barrett Jackson these last couple of days? When the cameras get close the swirls are glaring! I can only imagine how bad they look in person.



I think out of the several dozen cars I've watched so far only 2 or 3 seemed swirl free.
 
I've been watching too much TV because I've been under the weather, but that means I have caught some of the B-J cars.



Yeah, you are right. Don't have a reason for it, though. Perhaps someone else will chime in.
 
That's the problem with HD TV!!! ;)



It only demostrate how "anal" and "perfectionist" we (Autopians) are about a vehicle's finish. Not a bad thing but sometimes it causes us to loss the forest from the trees.

Swirls withstand, B/J does have some wonderful vehicular history crossing the stage. :woot:
 
You'd think at the very least they would use a glaze, most auction houses usually have a detailer(s) on premises. Same thing in magazines, I flipped through that Celebrity Car mag, forgot the name, you would see all the Bentley's, Lambos, Vipers etc in the pics with swirls galore from the camera flash.
 
well, not many of us are dealers, i'm willing to bet.



most dealers wouldn't trouble with the cost of detailing cars unless it was their personal ride.
 
I'm not a dealer either but i did go to a dealer's auction with a buddy.



YES, they are two completely different atmospheres. You could urinate and spit on the dealer auction cars and no one would care...not even the buyers.
 
I was similarly stunned at how horrible the cars all looked at the Peterson Automotive Museum. Even the John Buttera cars with eleventy billion dollar custom paint jobs had horrible cobwebbing and the paint on pretty much all the vehicles there looked really flat, as though they have never seen polishing or waxing. Real shame, amazing automotive history on display.
 
i have been going to BJ now for 11 years. this has always baffeled me. the reason is that many sellers/buyers are dealers. they have no "personal" attachment to the vehicle. it's inventory, it's clean and then it's gone. the other reason is during dry winter conditions at westworld and all the traffic (auto and foot), alot of dust is kicked around and a perfect finish can be destroyed in a flash. only the anal and proud sellers take care of their cars until the last minute. all car have been "no reserve" now for around 3 years. when its goes on the block it gets a new owner and alot of them don't care or have a clue. just my opinion.



p.s. have you checked out the finish on the overhauling cars??? clean but swirl city.
 
I miss watching the auction. When I moved I switched from DirecTV to Comcast cable. Comcast charges extra for Speed Channel ($10 a month). I wasn't going to pay that to get basically one more channel.



I did go a couple years ago to an exhibit of Ralph Lauren's cars at the Boston MFA. I was surprised how swirled these cars were. Some of them are Pebble Beach winners.
 
I think it goes to show that swirls don't detract from the vehicles value. I saw a 1 of 2 427 supercharged Cobra owned by Carol Shelby on TV, the paint looked like it was dry washed-it was headed to Barret Jackson. 98% of "show" cars and street rods are swirled. Most people just aren't concerned with having perfect paint or don't know how to properly polish their vehicles. I have a friend who's dad owns an original Chrysler muscle car which had the painted cowl crack . He never had it fixed. The car is now worth more than those whose owners fixed the problem. The cars with 80% or more original paint are considered "survivor" cars and their value is higher than restored "perfect" cars.
 
Kanchou said:
well, not many of us are dealers, i'm willing to bet.



most dealers wouldn't trouble with the cost of detailing cars unless it was their personal ride.
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The cars I used were driven until they were dirty enough to put on the lot or too low on gas to drive home.
 
People and companys dont care. Rent a car with 20,000 miles on it , and see what it looks like. Some auction cars would look better with a coat of Turtle Wax on it , but they wont even do that.
 
yea, a lot of people simply don't care. In fact, I don't think if someone saw a paint on, say, one of our cars, they'd even notice the things we do - "oh, look, the paint is deep and wet and free of spiderwebbing!."



Just wash a car and that's enough to impress most people, sadly.



I've started to believe that most people think swirls are just a natural part of car paint. Ever seen any car shows like Top Gear? Even many cars on there are swirled, which becomes painfully visible when they do a closeup shot once they go back to the studio (those studio lights seem to expose lots of flaws ;)).
 
I watched that for awhile today and my jaw dropped when they did an overhead view of one black car, I think it may have been a '59 Chevy. The roof had such bad hologramming you could see it a mile away. No hi-def here, I was sitting across the room watching a 32" screen.
 
wannafbody said:
I think it goes to show that swirls don't detract from the vehicles value.
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The only reason auctions and dealerships have their cars cleaned is so a customer won't look at it and object to its condition on looks alone. Most don't care about swirls and polisher marks. The ones that do are so far and few between that they'll either tell the dealership to make the car right when they buy it or they'll do it themselves.



A 57 Chevy is a 57 Chevy, swirls or not. Swirls can be fixed...rust, bad frames, not-matching numbers, etc permanently ruin a collector car's value.
 
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