Bad marring from Claymagic

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Grimm

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Has anyone else had a bad experience of marring from Claymagic claybar? When I first found out about claying last year I bought one, and it worked great. I just bought a new one a couple months ago, and just used it for the first time on my black Bonneville. I just did the hood mostly since I had just clayed it when I first bought it (with the last claybar). I used it with soap which I've done before, and after drying the hood looked like garbage. It was lubed enough because it wasn't dragging or anything. But when it was dried, it looked like I had rubbed the paint with steel wool or something. It polished out easy enough, but I'm afraid to use it after this. Think it could be just a bad piece of clay?
 
I had the same thing last year on a black vette. I tried a different bar (can't remember) and had the same thing happen. Have used blue clay magic on plenty of cars since then without any issues.
 
I find that it is realated to the soap and water breaking down the clay.



The car it happened on was an audi, luckily a polish not a compound took car of it.



I have switched clays, and back to detail spray.
 
I have used Claymagic with no issue many times. I have used it with both QD and soap, but when using soap I try to make sure it is enough to stay slicker than water. Not sure what could have happened...
 
I used the soap because it's easier to do while washing, but I guess I better try the spray next time.
 
I wash the car but leave it wet, then use the spray with the car still wet. Seem to use a lot less of the spray. If it's sunny I pull it into the garage. Has worked with Mothers and ClayMagic.
 
I had a similar problem but soon realized that it wasnt marring but rather streaks of clay. Again, it only happened when I used soap and water for lube. Using a QD solved the issue for me. Good luck!
 
I have a bad habbit of using way to much qd when I clay - but I suppose in the long run it cant hurt, as I use clay magic frequently and have yet to encounter the above mentioned problems . . . .



perhaps the soap being used was to potent . . .
 
i also recently had the same problem; before this i never had problems with claymagic. OP was able to take care of it tho
 
I've only experienced marring/abading from Red Clay Magic. I've been through over a 1000 bars of Blue Clay Magic and it has very happened. Correction: If the paintwork is very fresh/new/soft, it might damage it, but normal friction could do damage in that case.



Was there ANY dirt or debris on/in your clay? If so, your rubbing it against the finish. Sometimes a brand new bar just used on a very heavy oversprayed panel could damage the next vehicle's finish it comes in contact with, if not needed properly.
 
This was a brand new bar, and I just used it on the hood and front bumper. I did the hood first, and there was hardly any debrise in the clay until I did the bumper.
 
Maybe I'll do another spot on the car with another piece (I only used a third of a bar) and see if I have the same result. Then if it does it again, I'll try calling them.
 
A few of the Clay Magic bars that I've used were hard as a rock and when I tried to knead it, it would just break apart. I even bought a kit in FL and had the same problem... it didn't scratch or hurt the paint... but it was a PITA to use... my fix- buy another brand.
 
Yes I have had that hard as a rock problem and no longer use CM clay

Blue bars usually do not marr and I certainly against claying with car still wet from washing.

Whether you re soap each section or not, the bar falls to bits and leaves residue in your hands
 
Interesting thing, my dad had never known about claybarring until recently. We were out for dinner last night, and I stopped at Autozone and showed him the Claymagic and Mothers claybars. He went with the Claymagic, and said this morning that he tried it on his Corvette and sounds like it left marring on it like I had. He said he used the spray that came with it, and said he used plenty. He said it was nice and slick, wasn't sticking. I'll have to go see it to compare.
 
imacarnut said:
.. make sure to re-knead as needed...
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Yeah, note that if the clay picks up some abrasive contamination it instantly turns into sandpaper. That's one more reason why I cut/tear my clay into pretty small pieces which I pitch/replace frequently. Sometimes I'll literally knead the clay after *one* brief contact with the paint...e.g., if it picks up some abrasive contamination during the first inch of travel, and you keep moving it for another three inches, no surprise that you get a 3" long scratch. Yeah, the [abrasive stuff] will get "buried"/embedded in the clay, but it's still a risk.
 
I have never had any trouble with ClayMagic but I usually use Z-18 clay. It can be critical to use a good soap so no dirt or grit is left behind..that may get embedded and do marring.
 
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