Attention AMSOIL Users

rjstaaf said:
Look at the auto manufacturers that use Mobil1 as their factory fill. If it is good enough for Porsche and Mercedes than I think it is good enough for me :)



Not taking issue with your choice Mobil 1's super; but I would think the ability to deliver enough oil at a low enough price has something to do with it, too!





Tom
 
Hey don't worry I wasn't knocking Mobil 1. I loved the stuff while I used it, but my engine developed a sort of ticking noise when I used it. When I upgraded to Amsoil, the sound went away. So mine runs a little better on the Amsoil - BUT...I pay a lot for it, although the extended drain intervals are nice. Anyhow, both are wonderful products and its really a personal choice based on your particular needs.
 
Mosca said:
Not taking issue with your choice Mobil 1's super; but I would think the ability to deliver enough oil at a low enough price has something to do with it, too!

Tom



Obviously cost and availablity to deliver product are factors but, if that were the driving force than why use Mobil1 at all because you can bet there are cheaper alternatives out there.



If you are saying that is the only reason they chose Mobil1 over Amsoil well, all we can do there is speculate.
 
I just had an image in my head of the local Amsoil rep walking into MB headquarters, with 20 cases of Amsoil in his van...



Tom
 
I am not an oil expert, but wanted to reply on the "dark vs. honey" colored item.



My vehicle info and Amsoil use is below. I began using Amsoil in 04/03, and this is my first time running Amsoil.



Model: Ford F-150 Super Crew 2002

Engine: Triton V-8 5.4 Liter

Current Mileage: 10,400

Oil: Amsoil 0W-30 Series 2000

Oil Color: Medium brown, no black

Filter: Amsoil Super Duty Filter, Model SD-11

Filter Change Interval: Every 6 months

Oil Analysis: Every six month period

Drain Interval: Amsoil quotes one year or 35000. I put about 5000 to 8000 per year(weekend vehicle mostly) so I will change oil and filter in 04/04.



Oil Change Interval: I have only 4000 miles on oil after six months. I added one quart when I changed the filter back in 10/03. Oil Analysis said TBN was around 7.5 to 8.0 and I did not need to change. Most contaminent levels were so low that Oil Analysis did not report on them.



Just as a test I plan to perform another oil analysis when I drain the oil and change the filter in 04/04 (that's if my low mileage continues). I want to see what the TBN is after one year of sitting in the engine. If it's low, I may up my change intervals to every six months when I switch out the filter.









1. From what I can read on the Internet, oil is supposed to darken with use. It is a sign that the detergents/components in the oil are "doing their job" and keeping the dirt/contaminents in the oil.



2. If you are running Amsoil for over 7500 or so Oil Analysis is a good buy. It is around 20.00 for prepaid shipping both ways, but it can tell you much about the oil and your engine. And buy you piece of mind if you are runnning the oil longer than manufacturer specs. I suggest if for anyone running synthetic with extended drain intervals.





3. I have heard an old wives tale about Quaker State that used to drain "honey" color every time. The problem was that the Quaker State was not doing its job in cleaning/suspending dirt/contaminents in the engine. The theory was, no darkening, the oil is not really doing its job in suspending engine dirt, etc.



So I am not certain what "honey" color really says about an oil's performance.



Again, I am sure this may be a wive's tale. Just my 02. For those of you with "honey" drain color, this is not an intended flame or criticism. If your engine can run for 5000 or more and drain "honey", more power to you.
 
2001 1500 LC Suzuki Intruder.

I use Amsoil V-Twin oil.

Color after about 300 miles until I change it is black as night.



2003 Honda Accord I4

Amsoil 10w-20

Color is gold after 1300 miles.



Not sure what does it.



I think it is the higher heat of my motorcycle engine. I have been very satisfied with the motorcycle oil. Air cooled engines need all the help they can get to disapate heat. Amsoil is the best.



I used Mobile1 Synth in my 2003 Ram and have been morginally satisfied. I will be switching that motor to Amsoil at the next chsnge.

The color of that oil is a dark brown after 3500 miles.
 
Just FYI:



The German Castrol Syntec is A3 rated and is a Group IV + V oil that has shown to be excellent and is available in the U.S. Look for the "Made in Germany" on the back of the bottle.



At Bob the Oil Guy site, many prefer Mobil Delvac 1 synthetic over regular Mobil 1. Don't know if it's true, but some sites say Delvac 1 is certified for 50,000 mile oil change intervals when used with the correct oil filters in diesel trucks. Cost is about $25.00 a gallon.



DiEster basestocks (Group V) is gaining favor over the PAO (Group IV) basestocks. Nobody is making/using a GTL, Group VI(?), basestock.



There may be more ester based oils available now, Motul is one of them.
 
Mobil's PAO stuff is outdated. I regard AMSOIL as one of the best oils in the world but i'm a REDLINE OIL user myself

It's a poly ol ester base stock product 20w50 and all the lubricants in my car are redline now. Originally i was using 5w30 oil as ford recommended but since i changed the cam,air intake,exhaust and air filter i have switched to 20w50 due to recommendation from the distributor, pfitzners performance gearboxes- who make racing and street boxes.



Have never been happier. Only leave the engine oil in for 7,500 kilometres as i am keeping my car permanently and want to keep the engine clean as possible.



I did try redline 10w40 early last year but the car was gutless with that stuff. Goes like a rocket with the other grade



I know a speedway racer who uses AMSOIL and he is delighted with the product
 
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