I polished out some minor wash marring via rotary today on my green Acura with Meg's #9 and there are no visible holograms I could find using a LED light or the sun. I tried using an APC afterwards and then HD TOTAL in the same spot and no holograms reappeared, leading me to believe either there are no fillers, or the fillers are extremely resilient. Opinions?
Are there really fillers in Meguiar's #9?
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RaskyR1
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#9 is a very light polish that contains a lot of polishing oils. It, along with most any polish can fill.
IMO #9 is not really meant to correct, it's more of a final refinement step.
IMO #9 is not really meant to correct, it's more of a final refinement step.
Accumulator
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Right. M09 *can* correct via rotary but by hand/PC/etc. it's generally too mild (at least for most paints) and all the oils/clays/whatever do an awful lot of concealing. Not that *that* is always a bad thing...
RaskyR1
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BluBrett said:
You can get some correction, but it's really designed for removing very faint holograms that are shallow in the finish.
What pad you were using will vary the amount of cut too. Since I don't know what it looked like to start with it's hard to say. It's a pretty good jeweling polish, but I like PO85RD and UF more.
imported_Ivan Rajic
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I agree with the above... it's a very mild polish with some correcting ability, especially on soft paint. However it does definitely have oils/fillers that mask the true condition of the paint. In your case, it being such soft paint, it's honestly tough to tell as it could have gone either way... you might have corrected all the swirls well and that's why your paint looks great, or you might not have used the right stuff to remove the oils/fillers.
Accumulator
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Some additional, sorta-random thoughts follow:
-Unless you're a *LOT* better with a rotary than I am (and some people certainly are!) then finishing out 100% hologram-free, on soft clear, with M09...well, that's a pretty tall order to say the least!
-If you don't have a random orbital/dual action polisher to finish with, then maybe you're not gonna get the finish truly perfect (see above). In that case, the concealing that the M09 does might be a good thing.
-IF it is concealing, you could just wax it and not worry about it until the holograms/etc. "come back" and then you could just do it again (and again and again
). There's a line of reasoning that simply says, as Mike Phillips often puts it, "does the car look good?" and leaves it at that. Gee, more of my Autopian Heresy huh? But it's not like everybody has to be as fanatical about holograms as I am.
-Unless you're a *LOT* better with a rotary than I am (and some people certainly are!) then finishing out 100% hologram-free, on soft clear, with M09...well, that's a pretty tall order to say the least!
-If you don't have a random orbital/dual action polisher to finish with, then maybe you're not gonna get the finish truly perfect (see above). In that case, the concealing that the M09 does might be a good thing.
-IF it is concealing, you could just wax it and not worry about it until the holograms/etc. "come back" and then you could just do it again (and again and again
). There's a line of reasoning that simply says, as Mike Phillips often puts it, "does the car look good?" and leaves it at that. Gee, more of my Autopian Heresy huh? But it's not like everybody has to be as fanatical about holograms as I am.RaskyR1 said:
I used a blue LC pad. The marring was so light that it wouldn't show up under LED, only under the sun. The trunk somehow got the worst, and even that was hard to see in broad day light. I'm just always checking for marring/swirls.
LUSTR said:
Accumulator said:Some additional, sorta-random thoughts follow:
-Unless you're a *LOT* better with a rotary than I am (and some people certainly are!) then finishing out 100% hologram-free, on soft clear, with M09...well, that's a pretty tall order to say the least!
-If you don't have a random orbital/dual action polisher to finish with, then maybe you're not gonna get the finish truly perfect (see above). In that case, the concealing that the M09 does might be a good thing.
-IF it is concealing, you could just wax it and not worry about it until the holograms/etc. "come back" and then you could just do it again (and again and again
The only buffer I really have experience with is a rotary; I've never even used a DA before, so maybe I just got pretty good with the rotary? I did wipedowns with everything I could think of and the condition of the paint didn't change. It looks like this:
I guess we'll see what happens... hopefully the fillers end up being like 3M UF fillers, to the point that I will see marring before holograms.