Aquartz review feat. Ferrari Scuderia rosso scuderia flavoured...

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Hi all! So last week when I was doing a Scaglietti, they constantly kept taking away from me to adjust this and test that (the service guys and I have to work around each other a lot), so I was able to squeeze in a test of Aquartz during my waiting periods. The test subject was a factory rebuilt 2007 Scuderia that has just rolled in (this was a manager's car in Maranello and when they change cars things like the interior are changed, wheels refurbished or replaced, and repainted *and repainted by hand, which is why the refurbs look so damn good* :)) and although the paint job quality itself is superb, the polishing still needed some refinement... which is exactly why I didn't polish it.



Aquartz claim that their product "will cover 50% of light scratches" so part of my mission was to see how much water this held. The swirls were the obvious wash swirls and some buffer trails but nothing serious so this really was the perfect test subject. I only took one picture of the swirls because I didn't want to post 10o pictures of scratches, as this was not a correction job, it's merely a product test.



I prepped the surface with a 50/50 IPA wipe and then got started. In the instructions it says, "Spray a small amount of Aquartz... Immediately start to wipe on with a thin microfiber or any smooth cloth... Keep polishing!!! By the frictional heat and static electricity, the more you polish, the more bonding and glossing become." So, I chose not to use a microfiber and instead used a foam applicator. Reason being is because in the video it really looks like the guy applying it is just spraying it on and wiping it off too quickly and it looks like he's just not doing a thorough application of it, because well to me it looks like a lot of the product is being absorbed by the MF... dunno you be the judge [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONuQFYaPiww"]YouTube- aquartz by polisher.wmv[/ame] Again, this was why I chose a foam applicator to apply it because I was able to "spread" instead of just wiping it around with a MF. After I spread it for a minute or so to ensure even coverage, THEN I wiped the surface clean with a MF.



It spread very easily and didn't dry up or anything while I was spreading it. After I spread it out, removing it was just as easy as spreading it. IOW, it was very easy to remove. This is not like conventional waxes or other nano products that you leave to dry and haze then remove; it should be removed immediately. Almost like a SOWA but you actually have to wipe it too :). TBH it really didn't feel like I put anything on the car because I'm conditioned to seeing the hazing and what not so it was a little weird.



After applying Aquartz to the entire car I broke out Flexcalibur and proceeded to the next step, Aquartz+, which is not mandatory, but recommended by the manufacturer and now that I understand better how this product works (I spoke in lengths about it with Avi, cheers mate ;)) I would also recommend the 2nd step. From what I gathered about Aquartz+, it's a water-based, non abrasive polish that accelerates curring time and I also gather that it aides in product settlement (ie. smoothing it out). Don't confuse this second step with correction, because there was no correction at all. I applied the AQ+ with a finishing pad, let it dry and then polished it off with the finishing pad. This was another strange thing for me... letting the polish dry and then polishing it off...



So the application was a breeze and what I found after the 2nd step was pretty impressive... the swirls really were greatly reduced! According to the manufacturer, one layer of AQ will give you +.3 microns on your paint and another will provide up to .7 total, but that's the end of the line. What I noticed is that it wasn't just oils or something that filled the swirls, it was actually sort of camouflaged. This does fill, but from what Avi explained to me, it also plays with light refraction (the titanium oxide particles). Sort of like smoothing out a scratch if you will. And after polishing/jeweling it was still there so I don't think it's going to come off like a simple glaze. Of course I can't comment on the durability, which is certainly something that we're all curious about, but this is going to be another track b1tch so she's bound to have a collection of exotic bugs on her all the time this summer, so I'll try to keep this post updated from time to time. Here's some afters... it gave a really nice and slick finish.



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Close up of the swirls before



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And after... nice.



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Take note that in the next 3 pictures of the hood, not ALL of the swirls were covered (the hood was a bit more swirly than the rest of the car), so don't expect all the swirly demons to be exorcised by using this because that won't happen.



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Congrats if you've reached this sentence and thanks for reading!



- Jesse O'Connor
 
Scottwax said:
Interesting product and review. Looking forward to hearing how it holds up.



Thanks! Yeah, that's the most important part of it... Maybe I'll put it to the test and hit it with some laser guns and have it vandalized with spray paint... :).
 
Very nice work and cool product.....but really, how much longer would it take to properly correct that section? This product claims to mask 50% of light scratches......a single step polish with M205 would yield that result and take less time than this did. Anyone else thinking with me on this?
 
The Enforcer said:
Very nice work and cool product.....but really, how much longer would it take to properly correct that section? This product claims to mask 50% of light scratches......a single step polish with M205 would yield that result and take less time than this did. Anyone else thinking with me on this?



Thanks buddy! I suppose you're referring to the time it took the guy in the video? It didn't take me anywhere near that time (honestly I think the guy in the video has got the application technique a bit wrong... just goes against the concept of application and polishing). The point of this application for me wasn't to "correct" the car, because for one I'm not getting paid for it and two I'm testing the claims of the manufacturer about the "covering 50%..."



The way he applied it in the video is just one way of applying it; it can also be done by hand. This is good because if it still covers 50% of the scratches then that means Joe Blow can also apply it and achieve good results. As far as I can see it's pretty user-friendly and that was one of the things I was testing.
 
I also received this the other day.



This is as far as I know the only sealant which leaves a measurable layer of protection.



You can see how it works by applying it wrongly (like I did) first time round, this just doesnt come off unless you machine polish the car.



I am testing it against Gtechniq and good old colly 467s



John.
 
UPDATE:



OK so here's my conclusions about Aquartz:



The Scuderia that I did wasn't polished before the application of Aquartz therefore I didn't use any LED or halogen lamps during the application itself. After applying and removing the finished looked great; nice and wet and it did do a pretty good job of hiding some of the swirls. I still haven't seen the car outside, but I think with the swirls and scratches in it, there won't be much to see.



The second time I used it was on a rosso corsa Ferrari 599 GTB HTGE. I'd spent a couple of days polishing out Guido's "uglies" and applied it just as I'd seen in the videos (I also read the destructions, but much to my confusion they both showed different ways of applying it). So I applied it just like the first time and then broke out the AQ+ to finish things up... or rather fcuk things up I should say :wall. I didn't use LED or halogen lamps this time either during the application, but I sure wish I would have because applying AQ+ with the rotary (even at low speeds) left holograms all over my perfect finish! Supposedly the AQ+ contains no abrasives, so the only thing I can think of that left holograms was the Aquartz itself, by spinning thousands of nano particles around together and them making sort of a "nano conglomeration", which marred the finish. To say the least I was thoroughly pissed and tried to jewel out the damage with AQ+, but to no avail. It took me another 3 hours+ to remove the Aquartz and to polish out the holograms...



After that I paid strict attention to the next 2 cars I applied it to, because while trying to trying to fix the HTGE debacle I noticed that the Aquartz alone was leaving a less than desirable finish... Basically it was leaving a "greasy" film all over the car that couldn't be wiped off, spread out more smoothly or even dried with a heat gun. I noticed that once it was applied and I let it "settle" for a bit, it would sort of "calm down" and smooth itself out, but the second I touched it I had "greasy" smears again. Very frustrating... the next two cars I tried it on (BMW 760 and a Porsche Cayanne) luckily both had metallic finishes therefore it sort of "absorbed/camouflaged" the smearing, but it was still quite visible to my detailer's eye.



As far as durability is concerned, well Aquartz lost an "Accelerated APC War" with 2 other coatings (Nanolex Professional and "the secret stuff"). I let all 3 coatings cure for more than 48 hours and then washed them all with a 1:1 mix of APC... Aquartz lost in round one :(, while the other 2 still possessed adequate sheeting properties even after 3 "brute force" washes...



In conclusion, I do not recommend using this product on a freshly polished car... I've tried several modes of application (by hand, orbital, rotary, squirrel tails, etc.) and they all left me with a frown :(. On the other hand, if you have a car that is swirly and scratched and you want a nano coating that will hide some of them then this is your coating. Then again, if you've got a swirly monster I don't think that spending time and money on protecting your scratch collection is one of your top priorities... I also spoke with a few other people and they basically had the same experiences... Sorry Avi, I just couldn't get on with this product (though I will try it again in the future).
 
I'm in the process of applying it to my personal car, so I'll see if I have an problems like you describe.



First I polished off the existing UPGP with a DA using an orange LC CCS pad and SIP. Then applied a layer of Aquartz with a DA and soft pad, heated with a hair dryer.



Going to apply another coat of Aquartz before trying the Aquartz +
 
Dear Jesse,

you know well i was admiring your detailing knowledge and your different prespective for car detailing, and thought you will understand our new technology, BUT as i see it now...excuse me by telling you this... you have dissapointed me .. first by understand how to apply the aquartz well while not trying to use it your way , or to find new techniques which you can improve the application.

i believe you'r following other pro's in the DW who already test it and still do and found it easy product to use for pro's ,

since i wasnt there to see how you applied it, and how you cured it while trying to compare it with other sealants , i cant tell how exactly you decide its not durable enough compare to your special coat. or the other coat. (maybe you just have here unobjective opinion trying to promote your coat...ummm , maybe , maybe not:confused:??).

maybe thats why we are selling in countries which has the worst conditions for detailing , Thailand, Malaysia, India, Singapore, Slovenia,Swiss, Russia,Austarlia and more..with very very happy customers who find it pretty easy to use.

guys here can see Gordon thread about real life test, acid/alkali which has been baked on car paint.

Aquartz / Aquartz+ & Iron Cut - Detailing World



excuse me for my bad english, which is not my mother language.
 
AeroCleanse said:
I'm in the process of applying it to my personal car, so I'll see if I have an problems like you describe.



First I polished off the existing UPGP with a DA using an orange LC CCS pad and SIP. Then applied a layer of Aquartz with a DA and soft pad, heated with a hair dryer.



Going to apply another coat of Aquartz before trying the Aquartz +





I'll be very interested in reading about your experiences.
 
Dear Jesse



Im sorry you didnt manage to coat well and in the right way the Aquartz.

strangly i thought from all the pro's in Europe you will be the guy to understand our tech. but as i see you didnt, while trying to find your techniqes to apply it and not to follow my exact instructions.

i dont know why , but i strongly feel you are un-objective in this test , while i know you are promoting some products which you design and develope. and maybe Aquartz didnt fit to your future.

strangly other pro's find applying aquartz very easy and very good results, maybe they are not pro as you are, or dont have the "detailing eye" as you call it. guys here can see in the UK forum the acid/alkali baking test which Gordon has done , beside other test which more detailers done.

i wonder why other coating agents you have mentioned are not showing real life acid resistance or anti scratch proof tests.



sorry guys for my poor english .....
 
AQuartz said:
Dear Jesse



Im sorry you didnt manage to coat well and in the right way the Aquartz.

strangly i thought from all the pro's in Europe you will be the guy to understand our tech. but as i see you didnt, while trying to find your techniqes to apply it and not to follow my exact instructions.

i dont know why , but i strongly feel you are un-objective in this test , while i know you are promoting some products which you design and develope. and maybe Aquartz didnt fit to your future.

strangly other pro's find applying aquartz very easy and very good results, maybe they are not pro as you are, or dont have the "detailing eye" as you call it. guys here can see in the UK forum the acid/alkali baking test which Gordon has done , beside other test which more detailers done.

i wonder why other coating agents you have mentioned are not showing real life acid resistance or anti scratch proof tests.



sorry guys for my poor english .....



Listen Avi, my thoughts and results on Aquartz are 100% unbiased regardless of my other business ventures. Why would I say that yours is bad and Nanolex's is good? I have no ties to Florian other than him sending me samples, just like you have. I'm not out to try and ruin someone else's business by slandering their products because I'm not that type of person first of all. Secondly, if I slander your products to promote my own, people will see through it very quickly. I distinctly remember telling you that I didn't want to post my results online because I "...don't want to hurt your business." Do you remember that? I didn't want to post them because of that and because I didn't want it to seem that I was belittling your products for personal gain.



Yes I saw Gordon's test with Aquartz and I shant question his integrity, as I have much respect for him as a detailer; what he found is what he found. Perhaps you should accept the fact that what I found is what I found instead of trying to defend your product by casting blame on my competence, integrity and command of the English language (which happens to be my mother tongue). There are only so many ways to skin a cat, Avi. Maybe you don't know what that means and since you masquerade behind your "poor English" (which is actually quite good...) I'll elaborate on this idiom for you: I tried to apply Aquartz in every way possible and I still got undesireable results. Period.



Gordon used different catalysts in his tests because he was testing the durability of your product. Perhaps it is more durable and scratch-resistant than the others, but that's not really my biggest concern. My biggest problem with Aquartz is that it left a horrible finish! I'm sorry, but the colors of paint, the types of paint, etc. that I work with on daily basis are much different than the average finish. Therefore yes, results will vary.



I decided to finally post my results because of what Joel said on DW about "not wanting to hurt your feelings" or somtething to that nature. This is what forums are for and I'm sorry, but for the kind of detailing I do, this is not a good product therefore I can't recommend it.
 
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