Applying Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax #845

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What is the best applicator to apply the Collinite Wax? I'm purchasing the UDM, but not sure if the wax should be applied with the machine or by hand? And even if the UDM is ok for applying, there will be spots that require hand applying such as the mirrors so what product should I do this with to be safe?



Thanks!
 
I put it on by machine because although it is very easy to apply (goes on like oil) it will not be easy to remove if you put it on too thick. A machine helps get a thin, even coat which translates to easy removal.
 
Although I have both a UDM & a 7424, I apply 845 by hand. It is simple to apply & quite easy to remove in most applications.



~John
 
I used it for the first time this weekend and applied it with a 4" grey Lake Country finishing pad and a PC. Went on great (like Ron said like oil) and came off much easier than I was expecting.
 
I apply it by hand with a foam pad, but the PC/UDM method is fine, too. As long as you don't get it too thick, you'll be OK.
 
This comes down to personal preference, but I always apply it by hand. Using a machine for an LSP like this just seems too much work. It goes on very easily (and it is very cool, it kind of just melts into the paint, at least the pre-VOC version does).
 
I'll do it by hand since I've always applied wax that way in the past - this way I get a better feel of any defects in my detail job.



Are there specific foam applicators that are recommended - or can I just go to an Autozone or Pepboys and pick up an OTS product?
 
tCspool said:
Are there specific foam applicators that are recommended - or can I just go to an Autozone or Pepboys and pick up an OTS product?
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I just use the Megs ones or whatever Autozone has on the rack. As long as they are clean any foam should work fine.
 
Be careful not to put too much on - I've had trouble wiping it off my tC in those cases.



BTW, just to let you know, Collinite, while very durable and quite decent looking, does "mute" the flake in our paints.



And by applicator we mean the foam applicators. They're usually yellow.
 
paul34 said:
BTW, just to let you know, Collinite, while very durable and quite decent looking, does "mute" the flake in our paints..
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Seems to mute some paints more than others :think: Doesn't do it much at all on my pewter metallic Blazer, but *does* do it in a pretty big way on my graphite metallic Yukon :nixweiss
 
paul34 said:
Be careful not to put too much on - I've had trouble wiping it off my tC in those cases.



BTW, just to let you know, Collinite, while very durable and quite decent looking, does "mute" the flake in our paints.



And by applicator we mean the foam applicators. They're usually yellow.
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ok this is a big downer -



I love the flake in my car and do not want to mute it at all - I'll start a new thread asking for suggestions on the best wax for my type of paint.



Thanks for all the responses though, I think I'll use this on my other car.
 
tCspool said:
What is the best applicator to apply the Collinite Wax? I'm purchasing the UDM, but not sure if the wax should be applied with the machine or by hand? And even if the UDM is ok for applying, there will be spots that require hand applying such as the mirrors so what product should I do this with to be safe?



Thanks!
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I found 845 to apply *Ridiculously* easily with my Cyclo. For whatever reason, I found it applies much thinner with the two orbital heads vs. the one of the PC. For tight or small spots, apply by hand. I like MF applicators for hand use, but foamies work just as well. Good luck!
 
tCspool said:
ok this is a big downer -



I love the flake in my car and do not want to mute it at all - I'll start a new thread asking for suggestions on the best wax for my type of paint.



Thanks for all the responses though, I think I'll use this on my other car.
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Not all nubas will "mute" flake. I use DP Max Wax (well, haven't in forever. haven't gotten time to clay and put on a paste wax in so, so long... I miss that nuba look so much, I've forgotten what it looks like! :cry: ), and after a day or so, the flake is really nice.



Only thing that has managed to surprise me with the way it accentuated the flake was that DP spray sealant or whatnot. Obviously doesn't have the depth, but has the gloss commonly associated with sealants and also the insane flake magnification also associated with more "pure" sealants.



I don't use that that often (in fact, only have used it once or twice ever) since it requires a clean, naked paint surface. Doesn't bond properly on top of other LSPs. Since I do all my work by hand, it's very difficult to ever get a "clean" paint surface anymore!



Accumulator said:
Seems to mute some paints more than others :think: Doesn't do it much at all on my pewter metallic Blazer, but *does* do it in a pretty big way on my graphite metallic Yukon :nixweiss
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I've noticed the same thing too! I accept it in exchange for the increased durability at times, though :) I mean, its not that bad, but its still there
 
Hm.. I've never been really able to experience the difference between a wax that maximizes the flake on a certain paint color versus one that mutes the flake... Is it really that much of a difference? Or is it psychological?



I ask because I recently did a detail on my dad's friend's car, a light silver gray metallic color. I used DG105 and DG AW, both of which are supposed to bring out flake pretty well. After multiple layers and proper curing time, the paint looked very shiny under the sun, more of a shimmer than individual flakes. It looked impressive, but I didn't really have anything to compare to..
 
mikebai1990 said:
Hm.. I've never been really able to experience the difference between a wax that maximizes the flake on a certain paint color versus one that mutes the flake... Is it really that much of a difference? Or is it psychological?..
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Different products do have different effects on how the metallic element shows. The #16 currently on my wife's A8 is about the same as 845, perhaps a *bit* brighter, neither one mute the flake as much as the 476S I used on it one winter, but they both mute it more than Souveran. Souveran mutes it a bit more than the UPP on my S8. BF seemed to mute the flake a bit too, so it's not just a "wax vs. sealant" thing, but that comparison is hard to call because BF generally *darkened* the color so much that *that* might've been what I was noticing.



By parking the two (basically identical) silver Audis side-by-side I've been able to do some interesting LSP comparisons. The differences are real and usually quite obvious when you can do that sort of direct comparison.
 
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