applying/buffing wax with a pad attached to a drill?

Ok, real waxes are usually going to be hard to buff off if you use poor technique and let them overhaze. Usually its function of ratio of waxes to oils in the product. Synthetic products use various silicones which stay liquid for a long time, yet rapidly cure when spread in thin layers.



Could you describe which Simoniz wax you are using?



If I had an absolute need for speed and ease of removal, I would go with TW Ice Liquid/Paste. The pure silicone formula is very slick and doesn't set up on the finish.



Downside is that TW Ice is a pure wax with no cleaning ability what so ever. Otherwise I'd use mothers Synwax which has some cleaning ability.



Being able to wax and buff out quickly is a matter of skill. Eventually you learn how to apply a thin even layer across the whole panel quickly and with precision. The trick is to use less product, almost to where you can't see any wax going onto the paint, but to respread it over the waxed area to create a level layer of wax.



If you goto Autozone they have this nifty pad handle which costs like $4 for a set of pads and the handle. The handle has this velcro like substance which bonds to foam pads etc.



I wouldn't waste my time with a cheap orbital buffers etc, too much risk of causing damage to something or other. Plus you always end up buying the correct tool anyways :) Just a get a rolling mechanics chair/stool and you will be much more comfortable.
 
Removing a wax by hand shouldnt usually be a difficult task, unless you apply it improperly. Too much or letting it sit too long can make it a pain. Make sure you are using the proper method.



And I would just wait until you can get a little better machine. You will be much happier.
 
I don't know if I want to continue with my current simoniz. Its very hard to buff out and it makes my arms very tired. In fact, one time I was about to leave a client after they paid me but something was bothering me. So I turned the corner and came back only to freak out when I saw little spots of wax still left on when I thought it all came out.



The big question though is (and for the past 11 hours no one has answered)... Will my orbital sander work as a good and fast way to wax vehicles?



Thats the million dollar question: Which is faster, the random orbit sander or applying by hand???
 
HydroMan said:
I don't know if I want to continue with my current simoniz. Its very hard to buff out and it makes my arms very tired.
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Which Simoniz Wax are you using? What you're describing sounds like the old classic Paste Wax?



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This is a very old formula paste wax which has no silicones, and thus is indeed very hard to buff out (if you don't start buffing it out as soon as the wax starts to set up). The trick with old formula waxes is to work with small areas only, and to respread the waxes.



You have a short period of time to play with the wax before the solvents flash off, and so just put a dab on a primed applicator, spread it evenly over a 18in square area, then go back over the area in the reverse direction with the applicator pad. All you are doing is "leveling" the wax.



At this point, the wax should just be starting to haze up, so do a swipe test, and then start to buff it out. This should be a pretty quick process.



Why is the wax sometimes hard to remove? ... anonymous, Reeders, PA



Under certain dry or higher temperature application conditions, our liquid wax may dry and harden rapidly making buffing difficult. If you experience these conditions, apply the wax to smaller areas then buff within minutes. Apply a very thin coating, almost where you can't see any wax going onto the paint. Do only half or a quarter of the hood, or just one door panel. Wait no longer than 1 to 2 minutes and then buff the wax. Buffing should then be very easy. Under no circumstances should you apply the wax without buffing soon after. Exposing the unbuffed wax to the sun will cause a rapid hardening of the wax and buffing will then be very difficult.
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-- Taken from the Malm's wax website.



Just about any other paste wax is going to be easier to work with, since it will be a modern formulation with lubricating silicones.



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The big question though is (and for the past 11 hours no one has answered)... Will my orbital sander work as a good and fast way to wax vehicles?
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Possibly, possibly not. Are you willing to pay for a new paint job if it doesn't?



Don't you see a common theme in which everyone is discussing solutions which don't involve you using some unknown oribital sander?
 
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