Appearance only forum ( durability not allowed ;) )

Appearance only forum ( durability not allowed ;) )

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Would anyone be interested in a Forum for just appearance.

After the NXT experiences over the last few weeks, there seems to be two camps of protectant users. Beautification with zero regard for durability and durability with less regard for the ultimate appearance.

There are Autopians like myself that only care about appearance and the achieving that goal. 4 months of protection is not only unnecessary but also unbearable since I enjoy detailing my vehicles. Extremely relaxing and calming after dealing with patients all day.



Simple poll



Yes, I would like to discuss "appearance" detailing with no concern about durability.



No, I have no interest.
 
I dunno... I would still like to know how durable the product is on top of how good it looks. Why not just discuss both pieces of information at the same time? Anyway, why discriminate? Why not have a forum for durability and another forum for appearance? Or better yet, why not have a forum that discusses both at the same time. ....oh, wait. We already have that. :doh My bad. :cool:
 
Wouldn't we need a durability forum as well then, to balance it out?



Poor David's probably reading this and thinking 'oh no'



EDIT......I kinda got beaten to the post........again, must learn to type quicker
 
I don't like this idea.



1. The community doesn't need a special forum with a discussion topic this narrow. If you want to talk to others about appearance, start a thread in "Detailing". That will accomplish the same thing.



2. Appearance is very subjective. Its extremely difficult to develop some kind of sensible parameters that determine appearance factors only. So this discussion can quickly degrade to personal debates and away from product capability. IOW, this becomes a flame war that needs almost constant moderation. Do we need a special forum where people can bicker about what looks good?



3. What if I want a dedicated forum for Durability Only? Or Ease Of Use? Or Aroma And Texture? And what about interior products, wheel and tire products, glass cleaners, etc? Shouldn't they have their own forums? I mean, if were gonna discriminate, why not go all the way?



The community needs less divisiveness. Appearance is only one factor in car care products, albeit an important one. We can and should discuss it in our existing forums.



Your Honor, I rest my case. :bow
 
This could possibly be a forum where autopians can discuss experiment combinations of products (polishes, sealant/carnauba combos, LSP, etc) without being tangented by durability concerns because these test do not make "cross-linking" oil/water/silicone adhering sense. More of a fun discussion without concerns of popularity of product, hyping of products, availability or cost of product per waxing. Just plan old detailing fun. If the experimental combo only last one wash, one dewy morning, who cares. :nixweiss
 
I dunno. I'm an appearance guy and I still vote "no". I think that there aren't enough people using another feature of Autopia, the reviews, where they can state their opinion of appearance and discount durability, or v-v.



I think that even when we disagree, we're still on the same team; it's clubhouse argument stuff, not team vs. team stuff. The NXT saturation right now is like one guy telling another guy to turn down the country music. I'm OK with that; I might only turn down the music a little bit, but I'll do it, and the other guy might want it turned OFF, but he'll settle for down... and eventually we'll find another station, and maybe we'll BOTH like that one. Preferences will ebb and flow. It's over time, it's Tegwar. (Anyone know the reference?)





Tom
 
bretfraz said:
I don't like this idea.



1. The community doesn't need a special forum with a discussion topic this narrow. If you want to talk to others about appearance, start a thread in "Detailing". That will accomplish the same thing.



2. Appearance is very subjective. Its extremely difficult to develop some kind of sensible parameters that determine appearance factors only. So this discussion can quickly degrade to personal debates and away from product capability. IOW, this becomes a flame war that needs almost constant moderation. Do we need a special forum where people can bicker about what looks good?



3. What if I want a dedicated forum for Durability Only? Or Ease Of Use? Or Aroma And Texture? And what about interior products, wheel and tire products, glass cleaners, etc? Shouldn't they have their own forums? I mean, if were gonna discriminate, why not go all the way?



The community needs less divisiveness. Appearance is only one factor in car care products, albeit an important one. We can and should discuss it in our existing forums.



Your Honor, I rest my case. :bow
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Agree 100%. :bow
 
If the 'No's are the ones posting, then why are the 'Yes's winning the poll? :nixweiss Such great logic for not doing it. I'd love to hear ideas in support of it.
 
I voted yes, though I'm regretting it the more I think about it (and having read Bret's argument) - there are already a dozen or more separate sub-forums which barely get used because people either don't know they exist, or don't bother to wander anyplace other than "detailing" or the "university." In order to make the information most available and relevant, it can be easily grouped in with one of the existing forums.
 
blkZ28Conv said:
This could possibly be a forum where autopians can discuss experiment combinations of products (polishes, sealant/carnauba combos, LSP, etc) without being tangented by durability concerns because their test does make "cross-linking" oil/water/silicone adhering sense. More of a fun discussion without concerns of popularity of product, hyping of products, availability or cost of product per waxing. Just plan old detailing fun. If the experimental combo only last one wash, one dewy morning, who cares. :nixweiss
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This seems like a better idea, an experiment corner! Like mad scientists, we can mix and match to our hearts content. :p
 
Would anyone be interested in a Forum for just appearance.
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Simple answer to a simple question, why does it always become more than what is being asked ?

I vote a big yes.......

Is it out of realism to discuss only "appearance?" Why does anything else matter for this one instance. Im sure the majority of Autopians never even have to worry about longevity/durability, were all so anal about our cars/trucks, is it even an issue here on Autopia? Clients, different story.....I go with yes, lets see what looks the best....in the opinions of Autopians.
 
I will vote Yes! I don't know if we need a forum just for this but we could at least start more topics with "Combinations" or perhaps "Recipies"!



I just love being able to "pull out all the stops" on occasion to make my vehicles look their best!



Cheers,
 
There's a lot of threads and discussions about putting makeup on cars. Not Revlon or Lancome or Shiseido - its NXT or Klasse or Zaino. Nevertheless, its cosmetics for cars. I think I have a fairly good handle on how to put makeup on my car. Its not that hard. My gripe is the wrinkled skin under the makeup - the cobwebbing and swirls. None of these car cosmetics do a super wonderful job of hiding these defects.



I'd like to see a forum for PC polishers. In the PC forum, nobody would be allowed to come in and say: it just wiggles and does nothing, go get a rotary; or: sorry, but Superman, the Green Lantern, Spiderman and the Hulk could not get the swirls out of your paint even if they combined all their superpowers, on account of its single stage white. It would be hard-core PC users discussing all sorts of polishes and pads on every color, from every country: German paint, Japanese paint, American paint, etc.
 
YES

I think that would be an interesting forum. I for one like many would care less how long a product lasts on the car. If it's making my baby shine today, I'll probably be doing it again tomorrow then the next day and so forth and so on. I guess durability only comes into play during the winter months for some.
 
Scottwax said:
This seems like a better idea, an experiment corner! Like mad scientists, we can mix and match to our hearts content. :p
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That was my intent. Thanks Scott ,SRT and AMP01

A "stepping out of the box" forum. This would include prepping experimentation also. Hand/PC/Rotary. :D



Yes, there are a lot of forums subsets already. Most under-utilized, maybe a new venue would stimulate activity. :nixweiss



But conformity seems to be the call of the day. That's :cool: too.
 
I voted "yes". I think it would be a good forum and maybe even help noobies who are looking for best appearance products in specific. Who knows? :nixweiss
 
YES. The appearance is what "Most" people show off. The appearance is what gets cars to a detailer if I'm not mistaken. The number of people going to a detailer for "Preventative Reasons" as compared to the number that aren't pleased with the Appearance of their car will shed some light on the appearance factor.
 
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