Anyone remember Dupont-7 wax with the coin-opening lid?

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crist clapper- Ah, nice shop! Thanks for sharing. But of course it has me asking questions:



Is the "dryer" the thing with the yellow hose on the swing-arm (hey, really like that!)? I use an AirWand/compresser combo myself, but your setup is intriguing. What does it use for a blower?



I'm looking at your deionizer...is that (the additional pair of housings) a pre-filter setup or, uhm...what?



Interesting that you don't use the pressure washer all that much...that's the *one*additional thing I could really use in my shop; I'd use it as a touchless way of getting the "big stuff" off...if only I could figure out a way to contain the overspray :think:

 

[clapperc]

crist clapper- Ah, nice shop! Thanks for sharing. But of course it has me asking questions:



Is the "dryer" the thing with the yellow hose on the swing-arm (hey, really like that!)? I use an AirWand/compresser combo myself, but your setup is intriguing. What does it use for a blower?



I'm looking at your deionizer...is that (the additional pair of housings) a pre-filter setup or, uhm...what?



Interesting that you don't use the pressure washer all that much...that's the *one*additional thing I could really use in my shop; I'd use it as a touchless way of getting the "big stuff" off...if only I could figure out a way to contain the overspray :think:

Very observant!



The dryer/blower I purchased from folks that provide equipment for professional car-wash businesses, but eliminated the coin-operated input. There are two hoses with a slide/selector to switch between the two. One is on a boom to dry the top of a vehicle... And the other dries the balance. Needed 220v for the blow-power.



The deionizers are an input to the washer for the rinse and wax cycles… Again I just eliminated the coin-operated interface. Auh… The over-spray… Curtains on a track of course! LOL See below:

 

[Dan]

Sweet garage setup, but it makes it that much harder to believe you haven't tried clay! You'll be blown away by what a $20 piece of play-doh can do!

 

[clapperc]

Silly ain't it! :chuckle:

Sweet garage setup, but it makes it that much harder to believe you haven't tried clay! You'll be blown away by what a $20 piece of play-doh can do!

 

[clapperc]

I really appreciate you guys taking your time educating me about this stuff. I’ve always enjoyed the washing thing… And always had winter stuff to do… Like vehicle restoration… House-renovations to flip… etc. But nothing this winter. So… The now-fixation is this! :think2



The tale begins when I was a small child… Better skip-forward a bit… During my college years I would detail vehicles for extra-cash. No clear-coat back then… Just elbow-grease. A lot of trialing/erroring… But my cloth always effortlessly slid-off the surface when done. Fast-forwarding to today… All I want to do is rewind back to product(s) [results] of yesteryears! :sosad

 

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crist clapper- Ah, thanks for explaining.



Hey, good idea, buying the commercial car wash stuff :xyxthumbs Yeah, having the shop wired for 220 is always a good idea, besides just for a (clothes) dryer.



I hear you on the curtain, but my application would be a bit problematic, if only in the aesthetic sense, as my shop has a really tall cathedral ceiling. I could run a nice hefty cable (eh, aesthetics again :think but it'd be a ~40' run right down the middle of the shop with no place that I'd like to park the curtain when not in use (I have other stuff wall-mounted where yours is); eh...yuck, don't think I could live with that given my layout. Sure do like how it's set up for you though!



On the deionizers, I just wondered why you (apparently) have redundant systems (four small cartridges) I have a single pair, with the bigger cartridges.



BTW- I just rewaxed my wife's (silver) A8 with Meguiar's M16, and it did leave things mighty slick. M16 is officially off the (US) market due to VOC regs, but you can still get it. But then OTOH, I keep thinking I might switch that car over to the FK1000P that I like so much.

 

[clapperc]

Washer/Dryer... And... (below-right)... :biggrin: ... Then center-stage was last winter's project.

The deionizers… I can't get anything past you! The car-wash folks only offered commercial units that exceeded the cost of all the stuff combined. So on a re-design there was an additional input added for smaller deionizer(s)… Then I ordered the single unit based on their calculations. At installation time… The installer folks determined the one unit was not enough. As a result… Two separate units.

 

[Dan]

Washer/Dryer... And... (below-right)... :biggrin: ... Then center-stage was last winter's project.

Drool!!!! I LOVE Wagoneers. Best looking SUV _ever_ made. Looks like a mighty fine example.

 

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Crist Clapper- Heh heh, yeah...as they say, "I don't miss much" Thanks for explaining, it really did have me



I see your shop has plenty of domestic amenities



Very nice Wagoneer! If I may ask, where did you pick that up? Wasn't from Leon at Wagonmasters by any chance, was it?

Drool!!!! I LOVE Wagoneers. ...

See, there's something else we agree on! If you're gonna run that type of front suspension, that's the SUV to buy all right. If I hadn't bought the Tahoe...

 

[clapperc]

You know... You are only feeding my ego with these questions. I'm not complaining... Just pointing it out.



It’s not a Leon restoration… Although in the end… It may have been less-expense to have done a Leon!



I did a tear-down-to-the-frame make-over. What I like to think makes Delilah (her name) special is that there was/is zero-rust and no bondo… And she has her original woodgrain and trim. I made the acquisition from the son of the original owner… OH to NJ… Then to me in PA. 60k miles. Previous was a picky-owner… The original floor-mats were in the back un-used… Protective-tape still on the roof-rack and found shipping-plastic on parts of the interior seats. Needless to say I was impressed… I have piles of new un-used floor-mats… I suspect I don’t have to explain!

Crist Clapper- Heh heh, yeah...as they say, "I don't miss much" Thanks for explaining, it really did have me



I see your shop has plenty of domestic amenities



Very nice Wagoneer! If I may ask, where did you pick that up? Wasn't from Leon at Wagonmasters by any chance, was it?







See, there's something else we agree on! If you're gonna run that type of front suspension, that's the SUV to buy all right. If I hadn't bought the Tahoe...

 

[clapperc]

I do read that I can purchase Maguire’s #16... Just an overseas jaunt away! Then I have a lead on a more local supply… Stay tuned!



Still pondering all your suggestions. First… After the current stretch of bad weather… Will be the clay.

 

[Dan]

I do read that I can purchase Maguire’s #16... Just an overseas jaunt away! Then I have a lead on a more local supply… Stay tuned!



Still pondering all your suggestions. First… After the current stretch of bad weather… Will be the clay.

Megs #16 is pretty slick about even to FK1000P for me, but IMO NXT is slicker. Probably the slickest stuff out there is Blackfire Wet Diamond.

 

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Dan- You ever try Four Star's UPP? That's probably the slickest stuff I've ever used, just wish it protected better. "Ultimate Paint Protection" indeed :grinno:



Crist Clapper- Ah, Delilah sounds really nice...doing that level of makeover on such a well-preserved vehicle sounds like something I'd do (not sure whether that's a compliment or not :chuckle: ). IMO it's better the way you did it, this way you *know* what's been done, and how. And to think that was here in Ohio...



And, hey, heh heh, in my book there's nothing wrong with a healthy ego as long as it's justified

 

[Dan]

Dan- You ever try Four Star's UPP? That's probably the slickest stuff I've ever used, just wish it protected better. "Ultimate Paint Protection" indeed :grinno:

I haven't tried it but from what I've read the two are similar in many ways, including slickness. I like it but it color shifts the paint more than any other product. I haven't had any issues with BFWD's protection, certainly not my water spotting issues I've had with Zaino.

 

[Ron Ketcham]

Mequair's M-16 started out as a "mold release" wax.

When Floyd Mequiar left the family business and started Finish Kare, he formulated 1000P for his mold release wax.

As time went on, small changes were necessary to meet new VOC regulations.

Use of waxes for mold release dropped considerably over the past 15 years, however, Finish Kare and it's present owner, JJ, made some small adjustments to allow the 1000P to meet new regulations.

Mequiar's must have decided it was not worth doing so, which is why it does not meet California's or some other state's VOC requirements.

Actually, the 1000P has a higher melt or evaporation temperature than M-16 or, before I left Finish Kare and joined Automotive International, that was our lab findings.

So, if you like M-16, just purchase the 1000P and you have what you are seeking.

Grumpy

 

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Mequair's M-16 started out as a "mold release" wax.

When Floyd Mequiar left the family business and started Finish Kare, he formulated 1000P for his mold release wax...

And IMO the black sheep fo the family hit that one right out of the park

So, if you like M-16, just purchase the 1000P and you have what you are seeking.

Grumpy

You know I'm a *huge* proponent of FK1000P, but I gotta say that I find those two LSPs look very different, at least to me. I can imagine somebody preferring one over the other in a big way.



And for some reason the M16 is more forgiving of *very* light marring, whereas the FK won't hide even the lightest stuff (the little flaws that "any fresh waxjob oughta conceal").



But no surprise about the FK1000P/M16 findings at FK, using them on identically-treated vehicles there's no comparison *IME*, the FK simply lasts longer by *months*.

I like [BFWD] but it color shifts the paint more than any other product...

Ah, just like their AFPP did for me. Wonder if the two products are basically the same, like the BFWD is the "improved" version or something..

 

[clapperc]

Quick question... What are the vintage associates of #19 and # 26 to the M16 product?

 

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Quick question... What are the vintage associates of #19 and # 26 to the M16 product?

M19 went away even before the VOC regs killed off M16 (in the US). It was pretty good stuff as paste cleaner-waxes went back when I was a kid, but eh...these days mine just sits there making me feel nostalgic while I use newer/better stuff (stuff that doesn't stain black trim, for one thing ). It's a very ...uhm..."1970s product". Decent chemical cleaners in it, though, IIRC.



M26 is good stuff as "somewhat better than mediocre" paste waxes go. It tends to "darken"/"richen" things and if that's pleasing then there's nothing really wrong with the stuff. Doesn't leave things all that slick IMO, doesn't last all that long, doesn't protect all that great, but can look really nice on certain paints/vehicles. E.g., it's a good OTC wax for red/black/dark blue cars, but I'd like it better on single stage than on basecoat/clear. *IIRC* it doesn't stain trim, at least not if you buff it off right away. FWIW, I only used one tin of the stuff (again, many years ago) and thought "eh, nothing special" and never bought it again. I preferred the somewhat similar W41 from ProWax (another of those nostalgic products, still have my tin from the late '70s, still think about using it on the Jag some time), which is still on the market AFAIK.