Answering The Question?

Beemerboy

Beemerboy

Just One More Coat
I have noticed that on some threads, when a question is asked that some post a reply like
" I'm not sure about this one but someone will hang on"
" have not used that product but this one works great"

Its nice that you are posting for the person but does no good if you donlt have an answer. I tend to only post where I think that I can help or have used the product or done the process and undertand what I'am talking about.

Posting for the sake of posting only cluters up the thread with out giving a good answer to the person that started the thread

That's just my .02!
 
Sometimes if I think the question is a good one, but hasn't been addressed, and it's "in danger" of dropping off the Home Page, I'll post a "hang-on" or other "trivial" response as a way of keeping it up there for someone more knowledgable to see and answer.
Other times, I just can't resist being a smarty-pants!:naughty

Sorry, I see your point & I'll try to curb myself.
 
Yeah, I'm sure I am guilty of this as well.
Usually, I try to respond in some way to the threads that seem to just remain unanswered for hours or even days.
If you look back through the old threads, you will find some that had 0 replies. That poster was probably not too impressed with DC's "helpfulness".
I guess I feel an irrelevant response is better than no response at all.

:dunno

Charles
 
Beemerboy said:
Its nice that you are posting for the person but does no good if you donlt have an answer. I tend to only post where I think that I can help or have used the product or done the process and undertand what I'am talking about.
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Excellent point Dave! I see far too many posts where people dispense advice about a product or process, yet I know for a fact that they have never personally tried that particular product/process. This can lead to incorrect and even harmful results.

If you don't have hands on experience with a product or process, but remember seeing a thread for a similar topic, try searching for that information and then provide a link. That way, the person asking the question can see the original advice in context.

You could also answer by saying something like "I think member XYZ uses that product. Try sending him a PM if you don't get any direct replies to this thread."
 
^ are those the kind of posts you are talking about? yeah, I hate those too. We need to make a rule against post whoring. I see it happen from time to time... usually its some newbie who shows up on the board and feels the need to respond to every post. It is obnoxious to do that kind of thing. Unless you are contributing to the thread in some valuable way, then I think it is best to kind of stay out of it for the most part. I guess its ok to post in agreement with someone else as long as you are contributing, but post whores are going to start getting the axe around here. We have a lack of spammers lately and my axe is getting dull for lack of use. :naughty
 
Thanks all I was a bit conerned about starting this thread but then felt that it needed to be addressed. 330 i agree link or PM those that you know could help people out. People come here to learn about how to, what to use, new products or process's, etc. I certainly have and stil love things that I read about daily. Again thanks for the support on this glad I'm not the only one
 
awd330 said:
Excellent point Dave! I see far too many posts where people dispense advice about a product or process, yet I know for a fact that they have never personally tried that particular product/process. This can lead to incorrect and even harmful results.

If you don't have hands on experience with a product or process, but remember seeing a thread for a similar topic, try searching for that information and then provide a link. That way, the person asking the question can see the original advice in context.

You could also answer by saying something like "I think member XYZ uses that product. Try sending him a PM if you don't get any direct replies to this thread."
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I couldn't agree more! "Hands on" is the only experince IMO that is worthy of drawing upon to dispence advice. I see far too many people say "such and such says." What do you have experience with?

Beemerboy, thanks for bringing this up.
 
You are not the only one ... and I agree with Fuzz, sometimes you just know that a poster has no knowledge of a product or process. That type of posting can cause a lot of frustration to the person trying to learn and to others that know better and do not want to create an argument at DC.
Would these posters be imposters? :)
 
KIM

I agree with you giving advice about something that you have never done yourself could result in more damage than anything
 
Is that to say the only time you can respond to something is when you have done the exact same thing with the exact same product? Don't take this wrong, however, that is the vibe I'm starting to get from this thread. That is to say, there is only one path to get home-know what I mean?

It has been my experience that sometimes, people are responding/posting to things they have tried and have had good results with the means (products & tools) that justifies a response. Sometimes people are asking/requesting advice, and the person replying has found very helpful and valuable means to get results. I think if people are reading replies that are not helpful, mis-leading, or can be damaging, then those people owe to this community to post warnings that can be harmful and damaging.

Maybe you could post with some examples or links. I think there are so many variables that factor in results people get or have with the products and methods being used. Sorry to rant, just trying to understand and asking for more clarification. :dunno
 
wondering about this topic, as well.

example: johnson started a thread inquiring about 1Z vs Menzerna vs Klasse kits.

My 1st comment was "Never used the 1Z products" so I'm admitting that I cannot pass along a qualified assessment of 1Z.

but .......

I have used Klasse & Menzerna so I posted my personal experiences & results.

Someone else suggested later in the thread that he should try looking at Poorboy's products. I've used PB products as well but I didn't include PB stuff in my initial response 'cause the thread starter mentioned only 1Z, Klasse, & Menzerna.

I'm being honest about the products I've used & admitting what I haven't used so is this a problem?
 
How about when a post or thread is completely ignored because one is not a "veteran" member of detail city. I have seen many threads where a good solid answer has already been given, and others continue to submit unprofessional answers. I also believe that most of us are biased toward one product line. This causes people to feel that they have to post a reply recarding their preferred products. In reality, we all like different product/apllication techniques. If you have found something that works for you than continue to use it. If you have not, detail City is a good place to start.
 
What I started this thread for was to address the issue of people posting on a thread for the sake of writing on it. If you can contribute to the thread with a process or have used the product being asked about then yea!. But for someone to post "yea I've never used that product but I'm sure it will do a good job" Does nothing for the person looking for advice. You can do more harm that anything giving advice to someone if you do not have hands on experence. Allot of threads that ask about Megs product I do not post on only because I have not used them. I will however talk about a process to help them understand that end of it.
 
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What I started this thread for was to address the issue of people posting on a thread for the sake of writing on it. If you can contribute to the thread with a process or have used the product being asked about then yea!. But for someone to post "yea I've never used that product but I'm sure it will do a good job" Does nothing for the person looking for advice. You can do more harm that anything giving advice to someone if you do not have hands on experence. Allot of threads that ask about Megs product I do not post on only because I have not used them. I will however talk about a process to help them understand that end of it.
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Thanks for clarifying. I completely agree with what you have said. I do hate post wh*%*@!. I also dislike when people start treading onto another person's thread. For example, the thread starts out have you tried such and such and the thread has about 15 replies in it nothing to do with what the person is asking or wanting. I am very careful not to do this or add to it. I have even started threads out of another thread so not to rob a person of HIS THREAD Guess I just did it here in a small way :) :ticked

Also, I wonder what the age is of some people posting and are members? Maybe sometime in the future, it might be good to do a poll of that? I know on some atv forums I frequent I did a poll of post your age and it was surprising to see the age of some people. Not to say that old vs young or young vs old is better than the other. Or try a poll how long you been detailing professsionally, weekend warrior, part-time business, and so on. Now I have treaded...or is that answered the question:ticked
 
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I like it when people share different ways they've found to do things. Most of use are here because we like to learn about new products and techniques, so sharing of knowledge is a good thing in my book. :bigups My earlier post in this thread was fueled by seeing members post about topics about which they really have no experience and passing that information off as if it were expert advice. IMHO, this is both misleading and potentially harmful. :nono Here is a general example -

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Member A has been using a specific product/process for cleaning wheels which works great for many situations. He submits a post documenting this information hoping that others will find it useful.

Member B is a newbie to detailing who reads Member A's thread and thinks it sounds like a good idea which he would like to try someday.

Member C registers on Detail City, then asks for advice on how to maintain his new show car rims.

Member B wants to help answer Member C's question, so he submits a reply in which he repeats some of the information that he remembers reading in Member A's thread. The wording in Member B's response makes it sound like he has a great deal of experience on the topic, so Member C follows his advice before anyone else has a chance to post a reply. Unfortunately, Member B took Member A's information out of context and didn't understand that the product/process was NOT appropriate for Member C's situation. As a result, Member C's new rims are damaged by the process. :(
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In the above example, Member B would have been much more helpful if he had simply posted a link to Member A's original thread or replied that Member A might be a good person to ask for help.
 
norahcrv said:
:yeah

Well put, Marj!!!

PS - How was the shopping on "Sweetest Day"?
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No thread hijacking Norah! :-p

I have many years of shopping experience, so I believe that I would be considered to be an expert on the shopping process. It is my expert opinion that the shopping experience on Sweetest Day was very effective. I hope that directly answers your question. :D
 
Beemerboy said:
I have noticed that on some threads, when a question is asked that some post a reply like
" I'm not sure about this one but someone will hang on"
" have not used that product but this one works great"

Its nice that you are posting for the person but does no good if you donlt have an answer. I tend to only post where I think that I can help or have used the product or done the process and undertand what I'am talking about.

Posting for the sake of posting only cluters up the thread with out giving a good answer to the person that started the thread

That's just my .02!
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Good points.

I always have an issue where I ask two questions. And it doesn't matter whether it's here or in emails I've sent to people, the result is almost always predictable. They will answer the first question, but not the second. It gets so frustrating!
 
I'll probably get flamed fvor this but here goes anyway......

So often I see a thread asking about the performance of sealant X or product Y and in 98% of cases, the reply will be why dont you use Poorboy's EX / EX-P / Nayttys / NL etc etc. Now dont get me wrong I use and love Poorboys, but the hero worshipping it recieves on here is sometimes bordering on the annoying. There is barely an answer to the original question of sealant X and the poster ( often a newbie ) is left wondering whats wrong with my original sealant selection. I hate to single Poorboys out, but at least here at DC, it is mentioned ad neaseum.

So to basically ignore the question about product X and go on a spiel about how great you think product F is, is IMO counter-productive.

Add to that people that say basically nothing further to the post above theres than "yeah that". Big frickin whoop, why bother? You get one reasonable answer and then 24 "yeah thats" with nothing additional that is helpful.
 
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