AL-53
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I would get a Clay magic kit at autozone for 11.00 it comes with the clay lube also actually a nice clay for what you need to do.......and a AIO product of your choice....
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All-in-ones? Need help.
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AL-53
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Johnnie27 said:
It is a good clay..do a search here...there is only 2 clay makers world wide...the mother company of clay magic (Auto Wax Comp.) and one in japan...which does not send much here...soft99 is one brand from them
So any clay you get is made by the same company as clay magic...in the US..
there are different grits...some for severe work as in paint shop over spray..but the clay magic is good for what you need to do
here look at the kit
Clay Magic Detailing Car Clay Products
here is some info
http://autopia.org/forum/member-polls/5164-favorite-claybar.html?highlight=clay+magic
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rydawg said:
That is an understatement! The few times I've ordered from them they have been exceptionally fast getting the product out. Plus, they have a low set-rate shipping fee (can't remember what the amount is, but very reasonable).
Accumulator
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Johnnie27- I might be in the minority here, but I *like* the idea of somebody who isn't really into detailing wanting to do something simple yet beyond just driving a car through a carwash. IMO you don't need to make this a big deal to get good results.
The only issue I have with AIO type products is that the protection they leave behind usually doesn't last very long so they soon require redoing. That can get old fast and lead to people just blowing it off because it's not worth it to them to redo it all the time.
So I'd consider topping whatever AIO product you use with something long lasting. It'll really only take a little more time (and very little more effort) but it'll give you a *much* longer time between re-dos. While it might sound like more than you want to get into, IMO it really will pay off. These "toppers" usually go on/off almost as fast as you can walk around the vehicle, with no real effort involved (no hard buffing, especially over the already-slick AIO product).
I've known plenty of people whose detailing isn't *nearly* in the "Autopian" category (including some elderly people with serious health issues) who have kept their vehicles looking great with very little effort. Some of these people just use a cleaner-wax topped with some durable "straight" wax and it works fine. The way some toppers/Last Step Products ("LSP"s) are "self-cleaning" in the rain makes them worth it for that feature alone- less washing. And you can even just run the vehicle through a touchless carwash (which would usually strip off an AIO product but won't do much to something like Collinite wax).
For clay, IMO the best clay available is the SmartWax clay from the Autopia store. But it's awfully pricey at ~$22/bar. Worth it to me, but still...most people would be happy with the ClayMagic for half the cost.
The only issue I have with AIO type products is that the protection they leave behind usually doesn't last very long so they soon require redoing. That can get old fast and lead to people just blowing it off because it's not worth it to them to redo it all the time.
So I'd consider topping whatever AIO product you use with something long lasting. It'll really only take a little more time (and very little more effort) but it'll give you a *much* longer time between re-dos. While it might sound like more than you want to get into, IMO it really will pay off. These "toppers" usually go on/off almost as fast as you can walk around the vehicle, with no real effort involved (no hard buffing, especially over the already-slick AIO product).
I've known plenty of people whose detailing isn't *nearly* in the "Autopian" category (including some elderly people with serious health issues) who have kept their vehicles looking great with very little effort. Some of these people just use a cleaner-wax topped with some durable "straight" wax and it works fine. The way some toppers/Last Step Products ("LSP"s) are "self-cleaning" in the rain makes them worth it for that feature alone- less washing. And you can even just run the vehicle through a touchless carwash (which would usually strip off an AIO product but won't do much to something like Collinite wax).
For clay, IMO the best clay available is the SmartWax clay from the Autopia store. But it's awfully pricey at ~$22/bar. Worth it to me, but still...most people would be happy with the ClayMagic for half the cost.
AL-53
Duragloss User
Johnnie27 said:
John
First off..how good is your paint...does it have swirls..little round circular type scratches..minute scratches you see in sun light....
Unless you really prep the paint and try to remove some of the marring type scratches..a sealant my amplify the scratches meaning make them stand out more so..
you may get away from the silver not showing to much..but the Maroon will show swirls ..
Choose your products according to your paints conditions...also how old are the vehicles and how were they maintained as far as washing and waxing
Accumulator gave you good advice
Al
Accumulator-
I hear what you're saying and you're right. I'm really not into detailing my car every 6 months. More like once a year. If I were to go with clay, ZAIO and then some other wax instead of Z-2 or Z-5, would that be ok? What other wax would you recommend?
I need something that is going to hold up for a while.
J
I hear what you're saying and you're right. I'm really not into detailing my car every 6 months. More like once a year. If I were to go with clay, ZAIO and then some other wax instead of Z-2 or Z-5, would that be ok? What other wax would you recommend?
I need something that is going to hold up for a while.
J
Accumulator
Well-known member
Johnnie27 said:
A whole year isn't gonna happen, but you can (with any luck) get it to where you only have to redo the final step (the wax) every now and then after a wash. It's really not that big of a deal to throw another coat of wax on from time to time and I bet you'll find the motivation to do it now and then once you see how nice it makes your vehicles.
One of the great things about waxes, as opposed to sealants, is that they work on top of anything, so yeah, you could apply over top of the Zaino AIO. And yeah, they hide imperfections a lot better than sealants do. Some people have found (generally to their surprise) that some waxes even resist environmental abuse like bird bombs better than sealants.
I like Collinite brand waxes for jobs like this- I use them and so do friends/relatives who are *NOT* into detailing. Their 476S paste wax wears like iron, but it's not the absolute easiest product in the world. Not hard by any means so don't let that put you off, but their 845 Insulator Wax, a liquid, is much easier to use. BUT the 845 doesn't last nearly as long so there's always a trade-off. I'm tempted to delete that "not the easiest" bit lest it give you pause, so please don't worry about it, it won't be some struggle or anything.
I'd recommend you use the AIO then apply Collinite 476S paste wax. Reapply the Collinite whenver you think it's necessary (you'll notice
) and then just redo the whole thing (AIO, etc.) once or twice a year, like every spring and maybe again before winter. I bet you'll find this stuff isn't as bad as you'd expect. Oh, if the marring (scratches/etc.) on the burgundy car bothers you, a more abrasive product than the Zaino AIO might be called for. In your case (IMO) the hands-down choice is 1Z brand Paint Polish (available at Aloha & Welcome to Our Oasis for All Your Auto Detailing Supplies & Accessories where you can also get Collinite).
Johnnie27 said:
If you are going to go all out then get everything from Zaino. Its sounds like your going to get mostly Zaino stuff anyway. I think their clay is one of the best, I was afraid of using clay again,but the zaino put my doubts to bed.Get the zaino car wash too.
JMO, Don't worry about saving a few bucks ,make sure you get the best.
If I were you I would get
Zaino clay
zaino car wash
ZAIO
CS
Z6 or Z8 or both
The Zaino and Cs will be the easiest stuff you ever used and the results will be awesome.
imported_Bence
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Someone should do an extensive Prime Strong/215/ZAIO/OPS/PwS/101/#66 comparo...
thesacrifice
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I strongnly recommend Aquawax....it's a spray on sealant with extremely good looks and really good durability. If you could spray it on once a month, you'll maintain great protection. It's CHEAP too.