? about LC pads

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nathansdad04

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How long do LC pads last? My gray pad and white pad are already starting to separate from the velcro. Do the pads start to spin oddly when they get to much polish in them? After about an hour of polishing both my gray and white pad would not spin correctly. In some cases..the pad vibrated rather than spun as I polished, not to mention I had to keep reattaching the pad to the velcro.
I'm beginning to think I should've gone with the Edge pads.
 
Which of the LC pads did you get? I use the VC (variable contact) and they are over 3 years old and work as good as the day I got them. :cool:
 
With those ones you have to be really careful when you pull them off a backing plate. I have 4-6, 6 inch pads like that and they didn't last more than 20 uses. I reported to the manufacturer and they said that was normal. I then switched to 7.5" LC pads and have had 0 problems.
 
budman3 said:
With those ones you have to be really careful when you pull them off a backing plate. I have 4-6, 6 inch pads like that and they didn't last more than 20 uses. I reported to the manufacturer and they said that was normal. I then switched to 7.5" LC pads and have had 0 problems.
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there you go.. I have those too (the 7.5" pads)... I trusted Dwayne to pick the pads for me back then and have never looked back. He sent me the flexible backing plate too and the velco works fine on that too. :)
 
I pulled the pads off correctly and carefully. I pinch the velcro and pad together so there is no stress on the part where the velcro is attached to the pad.
It seems like the entire edge around the velcro is weakening from the stress of the pad spinning. There are no tears(yet), but it seems like it won't be long til problems start.
 
I'm not too sure but what your polishing problems and your pad problems could be related.
As I remember one of your posts, you used a lot of polish to do one vehicle. Something like most of a bottle. A 16 oz. bottle probably does anywhere from 4 to 8 vehicles for me.
The wobbling pad also sounds like it may be saturated with polish. That might cause more vibration and affect the velcro adhesive as well.
As far as pad vibrating rather than spinning, that's pretty normal when any pressure is applied to the pad.
Try using a polishing pad at a speed of 5 with just moderate pressure. Use less product and don't prime the pad with anything. I put about 3 or 4 globs of polish on the pad about 3/4" in diameter to start with for the first panel. When I move to the next panel, I just add 2 or 3 more globs. You want to work the product over the surface of the paint, not force it into the pad.
Try working on one section/panel at a time rather than going over the entire vehicle and then finding out you have all the problems.
Relax, you can do it. I know, because I can.:)

Charles
 
I'm convinced that the pad was too saturated(after all the polishing). I finished my car today. It's not perfect, but looks pretty damn good. The micromarring is minimal/acceptable. I'll have the 2nd coat of DG104 on tomorrow and I'll post some pics.
 
nathansdad04 said:
I'll have the 2nd coat of DG104 on tomorrow and I'll post some pics.
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DG104?
So, you are using the paste wax.
I don't remember anyone else mentioning that they had used the Duragloss paste wax.
When you post your pictures, comment on how it was to apply, remove, did it stain trim, etc.

Charles
 
CharlesW said:
DG104?
So, you are using the paste wax.
I don't remember anyone else mentioning that they had used the Duragloss paste wax.
When you post your pictures, comment on how it was to apply, remove, did it stain trim, etc.

Charles
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I have the #104 wax. It's sort of like pudding in the tub and comes with it's own applicator and a little plastic insert inside to keep the applicator out of the "pudding". If I remember correctly it was a little difficult to spread, but that may have just been because I'm used to paste wax, so I was probably using too much. I only used it one time and wasn't really that impressed, so I switched to 105 which is alot easier to use (to me), and looks better to my eyes.

Edit:Nathansdad04, I didn't mean to hijack your thread. Sorry.
 
IMHO, its not the operators fault its a flaw design in the 4 3/4 BP when using a 6" pad that caused the velcro to fail ...I have my old 6" pads sitting in the basemant ready for the trash with the old BP..
 
joe.p said:
IMHO, its not the operators fault its a flaw design in the 4 3/4 BP when using a 6" pad that caused the velcro to fail ...I have my old 6" pads sitting in the basemant ready for the trash with the old BP..
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Joe:
Are you talking about just the Lake Country pads or all manufacturers pads?
I use mostly Meguiar's 6.5" pads with some Lake Country, all with what was called a 5" backing plate. (I never measured either the pads or the backing plate.)
The only pad I have had a problem with was caused when I removed it from the backing plate by just gripping the foam. It was a Meg's pad. I reglued it and am still using it.
I blamed it on operator error although I did think the pad should have been able to withstand that type of use/abuse. Gripping just the foam is a pretty natural way to remove the pads. Not a good way, but natural,:)

Charles
 
CharlesW said:
Joe:
Are you talking about just the Lake Country pads or all manufacturers pads?
I use mostly Meguiar's 6.5" pads with some Lake Country, all with what was called a 5" backing plate. (I never measured either the pads or the backing plate.)
The only pad I have had a problem with was caused when I removed it from the backing plate by just gripping the foam. It was a Meg's pad. I reglued it and am still using it.
I blamed it on operator error although I did think the pad should have been able to withstand that type of use/abuse. Gripping just the foam is a pretty natural way to remove the pads. Not a good way, but natural,:)

Charles
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I agree with you there. I recently purchased a PC Kit and the first thing I realized was that there could be a problem if not being careful when pulling the pads. One of those little things that never gets mentioned, and yet they have an impact on your detailing as a whole.
Goose-
 
From what I have been reading, from not seeing the pad, my first conclusion is that the pad was saturated, which causes the pad to be heavier. This would cause the pad to not spin fully as a new pad. The DA pads delaminating should not be an issue. I have tested these pads and detail cars at my shop and have not had an issue. If anyone does have an issue, Im at the factory and am willing to help answer anyone's questions. thanks.
 
CharlesW said:
Joe:
Are you talking about just the Lake Country pads or all manufacturers pads?
I use mostly Meguiar's 6.5" pads with some Lake Country, all with what was called a 5" backing plate. (I never measured either the pads or the backing plate.)


Charles
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I'm speaking only of the LC pads..heres a pic of the white polishing pads where the velcro failed..this pads might of been used 1/2 dzn times or so..why the velcro failed i don't know..
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The 2nd pic is the orange pad..i think this pad failed due to the fact the pad dosen't go from the edge of the pad to the edge of the BP causing it to wear prematurely ..this my opinion only and in noway am i trying to discourage anyone from purchasing the pads.
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The Pad Man said:
Those pics look like the backing plate was used with to much pressure, causing the foam to get cut on the edges.
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I have to disagree with on that if that was the case my BP would of shown signs of over heating..the orange pad is a perfect example when the BP does not fit edge to edge with the pad....I'm polishing paint not cutting concrete :)
 
Pushing down on the pad, if the backing plate is smaller, would cause the loop to start to curve around the edge of the backing plate. Our backing plate egde is not rounded, which would cause the egde to cut into the loop or, tear at the gluing underneath.
 
The Pad Man said:
Pushing down on the pad, if the backing plate is smaller, would cause the loop to start to curve around the edge of the backing plate. .
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This why i beleive its a minor defect in the pad and BP configuration..I have the 7".5" LC BP and have used the pads without incident..
 
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