DieselMDX said:
wow awesome job as usual, in your opinion did the werkstat and souveran give a deeper better finish then zaino or other products you have used on silver?
What made u venture away from your normal lsp's?
dont see u use those products often.
VERY VERY interesting on you filler commments
thanx!
Thanks! I would say that the look of Werkstatt with Souveran gave a very unique and wet look. Its hard to compare it directly to Zaino because this particular shade of silver is darker then what I am used to, but I can say I have never seen this type of color look better.
Just like everybody, I am a product addict and love trying new things. We where having trouble with the Ferrari 360 Spider (the one with the wing)'s paint, so I wanted to go with a nuba to avoid any bonding issue. Brian suggested we try Werkstatt first, and since is opinion is beyond valued, I figured why not. I didn't expect to fall in love with it as much as I did though.
I am really starting to love carnuaba's (I have always but just starting to love them more) and really never had good luck with a wax on top of Zaino, so its fun to try new things.
bert31 said:
Todd,
Under what criteria do you decide to use Jeff's Werkstatt products and what criteria do you decide to use Zaino?
Honestly, I don't know and haven't thought about it. I would say pound for pound, Zaino is probably (don't have near the experience yet) still at the top of the sealant food chain, but with Werkstatt seems to "top" better. I don't know, but I will run the products through some tests and forumlate a plan. I hate when products come along that are just so cool that you. Its like dating a blonde and a smoking hot brunette walks bye...
ajbarnes said:
I think I wet my pants!!!!!!!
LOL thanks.... My son just finished potty training, so I have some diapers you could borrow if need be :think2
Pats300zx said:
Very very nice.....Congrats to both of you guys...
Stellar work...
Coming from you Pat that means a lot, considering all the headaches I cause for you moderators... haha
Thanks man!!!
Dave1 said:
You two guys are a great team and and I always enjoy seeing and learning from your detail work and photos........
Keep that rotary and camera plugged in for 08 too......
Thanks Dave, Brian has helped elavate my game to a new level (and I hopefully his). The rotaries are staying plugged in (though I made the switch from Hiatchi to Makita). We have some big plans for 08, should be very cool...
Accumulator said:
Not being a huge Ferrari fan, I almost missed this thread....Great work guys!
Two things that really stuck with me were a) the need to use 3M Extra Cut (!) on a few of them and b) the way the owner of the 360 managed to keep it marring-free since September.
When you use the Leatherique, do you do the Prestine Clean first or the Rejuvenator oil?
The problem with Ferrari's is that the soft paint allows it to be marred very easily, very deeply. I also have a theroy that sometimes when we try to finesse the defects out, we end up removing more paint than if we would go ahead and relevel the surface cleanly at first. I have removed two sections of the same scratch (each section taped off) and measured the paint. I polished until the defect was removed with SIP/Orange for about 4 passes, then finished with 106ff/Blue. On the other side I removed the scratch with 1 pass of Extra Cut and a purple wool, followed by SIP/Orange and 106ff/Blue.
The side that I hit harder at first showed more total film build (paint thickness) then the side that I "finessed". The reason, I believe, is because that polishing paint and chasing scratches also removes paint from the scratch. Otherwise we could polish out orange peel and chase high and low spots. Obviously, less paint is removed from the deeper areas, until they level out.
By using something like 3M Extra Cut, which cuts hard quickly, I feel I am able to cut the defects out by cutting and releveling the higher areas first. Again, this is my theroy, but sometimes, its not only faster, but perhaps safer to hit it quickly then finish the releveled paint out then chase and chase defects.
Again, I don't know if this is exactly fact, but logical assumption based on experience. On the side with SIP x 4/106 x1, I removed .1 mil, while on the side with 3M/SIP/106ff, I could not measure any film decrease. This isn't scientific because I'm not sure if the scratch was a unifom depth on each side, but atleast its something.
Also, on cars that I don't compound first, I have seen some defects "come back" months later, which I believe could be from the edges of the defects being rounded (usually minor RIDS that slowly reappear). On cars I relevel, I can say confidently that nothing comes back at all, such as the 360 that I polished 3 months ago.
Obviously experience is the best leader, and I have done so many 360/F430's in the last 6 months (I believe 37 at last count) that I am very comfortable looking at them and knowing what they need
As far as Leatherquie, I apply and remove it 100 percent according to the directions. I have seen it (ask Brian about his MB) restore softness to 25 year old leather, clean gunk out of leather that appeared clean, and restore the orginal scent, which lasts for months. Leatherquie smells terrible by itself (definetly not scented) yet the orignal scent (example Bentley leather vs. Ferrari leather) seems to be restored. Probably one of the most impressive products I have ever used.
SilverLexus said:
Damn Todd, you really need to limit the # of pics. Not everyone has DSL.
Nevertheless that is top quality work, the palm trees reflecting in the blue hood is terrific.
Sorry about the picture limit, I get carried away, huh? Thanks for the compliments, lol.
). You guys ROCKED it!1!!!
