A cleaner that won't remove wax, etc...

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skenzer

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Hi guys, me again.



I've read a lot of forum posts, etc but I can't find an answer to my question and I'm betting that one of you experts will know this one for sure.



Is there a cleaner out there that can be used on car paint and won't remove wax or sealant? Other then normal car shampoo. It needs to be a little more aggresive at cleaning that is.



I've considered P21s, Poorboy's APC and even Simple Green. I'm thinking all of these will strip the wax right off though.



Any ideas or experience with a product like I'm describing?



thanks

Brad
 
A very flew detailing clays make the claim that they remove contaminants and not wax.



What type of problem/cleaning do you need to do?
 
skenzer said:
Hi guys, me again.



I've read a lot of forum posts, etc but I can't find an answer to my question and I'm betting that one of you experts will know this one for sure.



Is there a cleaner out there that can be used on car paint and won't remove wax or sealant? Other then normal car shampoo. It needs to be a little more aggresive at cleaning that is.



I've considered P21s, Poorboy's APC and even Simple Green. I'm thinking all of these will strip the wax right off though.



Any ideas or experience with a product like I'm describing?



thanks

Brad
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish, any cleaner, even the mildest of shampoos will some effect on a wax or sealant, will not take completely off but it will deminsh it longevity a bit, even straight water will do this. When I wash White cars, I add a bit of APC to my wash sollution, maybe this something you could try.
 
I'm looking too do the typical "get rid of bugs" washing along with some pre-washing on the lower panels prior to actually doing a full car wash. It almost needs to act like a good presoak detergent that will break up that grime for me so I don't have to scrub the paint.



thanks

Brad
 
CG's Citrus Wash mixed a little bit strong will fit the bill perfectly. Don't expect LSPs to last more than a month or two while using a pre-treating agent, though - Zaino, Ultima and Collinite being notable exceptions.
 
themightytimmah said:
CG's Citrus Wash mixed a little bit strong will fit the bill perfectly. Don't expect LSPs to last more than a month or two while using a pre-treating agent, though - Zaino, Ultima and Collinite being notable exceptions.
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This is probably going to show how new I am to the detailing world...but help me understand what you mean when you say LSP? I'm assuming you're speaking of some type of wax or polish?



thanks

Brad
 
Interesting that there are bug removers that won't remove wax...might be an alternative to my constant use of Sonus green clay for that job.



skenzer- "LSP" = Last Step Product, i.e., "wax".
 
If its strong enough to remove/break up bug guts then i dont see how it wont remove the LSP.



Also, if you have to dilute a certain chemical enough to not remove the LSP then whats the point? Just wash it like normal.
 
If there is an odd lots around you, try and find some turtle wax platinum car wash. Its only $4 for a gallon and a quarter. At this price I usually use too much washing the car but it is excellent wash and won't strip off your lsp. But then again I use Collinite 476S and it is a tough wax. I usually put on two coats a week apart and it will last me 6 months outdoors 24/7.
 
Coupe said:
If its strong enough to remove/break up bug guts then i dont see how it wont remove the LSP.



Also, if you have to dilute a certain chemical enough to not remove the LSP then whats the point? Just wash it like normal.
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I see your point about diluting the chemical....however, some of the substance that makes up that chemical is still left in the diluted form which may still give it an advantage over simple car shampoo.
 
skenzer said:
I see your point about diluting the chemical....however, some of the substance that makes up that chemical is still left in the diluted form which may still give it an advantage over simple car shampoo.
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It wont matter, it will be diluted so much it wont be any more affective than just washing as normal.
 
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