#26 and S100........i've tried both of them and ...

i would tend to think, you're using too much, as i made the same mistake at first, but now i use less, and it wipes off like magic.
 
blackmagicgti said:
So how are you guys using it?



I have #26 that I bought late summer/early fall and although I am impressed with its durability, it seems as if it masks my metallic black paint and makes it less metallic rather than bring it out.



I was under the assumption that you apply, wait 20 min or more and the wipe off. Also, wiping off is soo hard (i must be using too much).



What am I doing wrong?



Thanks.
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I apply it with a dinky lil Simoniz 4" orbital to get it very thin.. takes 10 min to apply to the total car then I immediatly go back and buff off with 100% cotton towels I have tested and know don't scratch. Buffing off is rather easy. I do notice there is some hazing from curing visable in an hour or too .. I just wipe down with a damp m/f followed by a dry m/f .. left hand / right hand.
 
My black 4runner(non metalic) has had both #26 or s100 on it at one time or another. I like to use #7(when time allows) before applying the 26. I agree that 26 gives a deeper, darker appearance than the 100. not as reflectant. I also believe my vehicle does not have a clearcoat. But just used 100 on my wifes black honda do to ease of application and removal and it looked good. Just my 2 cents.



Thanks
 
The pro line IS better, but not by much. The entire Meguiar's line is characterized, in my opinion, by BALANCE. There is a beautiful balance of depth, gloss, wetness, and reflectiveness.



What I find in the consumer line waxes, Step 3 and the Cleaner Wax (both paste and liquid) is, less depth and wetness, more gloss and reflectiveness... but all within the Meguiar's BALANCE. They are very satiny, very "airy" looking. If you think about it, they DO set a standard that ALL "consumer type" waxes should (and probably do) strive for. You could do a heck of a lot worse for $4.38/11oz paste, /16 oz liquid.



I prize very highly the depth and wetness of #26; after being hooked on Souveran Paste for a year, I actually found #26 to be a bit unnerving at first. I see it as being deep and wet, but still within the Meg's BALANCE. Souv is super wet, and "satinier", though, and VERY alluring.



MPPP is, IMO, the most balanced of them all; lots of depth and wetness (but not quite as much as #26), lots of gloss and shine, and also the most durable Meg's product (for now, anyhow). Aurora40 commented to me, and I concur, that if MPPP was invented and marketed by a couple guys as a boutique product it'd be all the rave. It never found its "legs" as a Meguiar's product, though, I don't think. Honestly, I put MPPP on my Miata intending to top it with #26, but I can't bring myself to put ANYTHING on top of the MPPP; I like the look too much. I did a coat of Souv, and the next day re-MPPP'd. Careful with trim with MPPP; it does stick to everything. If you get it right away it's no problem, and Mother's Back to Black will clean the trim right up, but do yourself a favor and tape the trim first.



#20 is the most reflective of the Meg's toppers, and the only one that IMO is kind of lacking in the "deep" area. It makes a super base coat for #26, though.



And they ALL look best over #81 or #7, the two most beautiful Autopian products out there, again IMO.





Tom
 
Meguiars MPPP would be a bigger seller if more place carried it. I used to see it at Pep Boys when it first came out, but the only place I see it now is at my Meguiars distributer.
 
good to know that S100 beads more, Yet this afternoon i,ll apply #26 to the whole car and then will be in a position to say whether or not i really like it more than S100........looking forward to it :D
 
Chip Douglas said:
good to know that S100 beads more, Yet this afternoon i,ll apply #26 to the whole car and then will be in a position to say whether or not i really like it more than S100........looking forward to it :D
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Why not do it all in #26 the do one front fender in S100 and let us know in a month which is beading still.
 
Scottwax said:
Meguiars MPPP would be a bigger seller if more place carried it. I used to see it at Pep Boys when it first came out, but the only place I see it now is at my Meguiars distributer.
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Not only that, but lower the price to 15 instead of 20. Imo, if zaino costs less than meguiars medallion ppp, than why even bother getting the medallion? I think #20 is their best polymer product out there right now, but who knows until their nxt wax pure polymer comes out. That might be one of the best.
 
Jesstzn, too late...i've just got back inside and did the whole car with #26 and i honestly prefer it to S100. it has a clearer reflection and it's got part of what i was looking for : i mean i've seen pics here, where on black cars, i could lose the figure of the car as the reflection was awesome and that almost what #26 has given me as a result........i'm very happy i bought it

:D





And yes, i too am looking forward to trying their new line coming out in February if i recall correctly.



later all:wavey
 
I just did my truck with #7 and liquid #26 for the first time. Can't really comment on the results because I was running out of daylight.



Still awaiting delivery of my VM. I want to compare #7/#26 to VM?S100.
 
NHBFAN said:
I just did my truck with #7 and liquid #26 for the first time. Can't really comment on the results because I was running out of daylight.



Still awaiting delivery of my VM. I want to compare #7/#26 to VM?S100.
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My experience between the two combinations is that #7 or #81/#26 will have a slightly darker, softer and more liquid look and VM/S100 will have a slightly brighter look with stronger reflections and slighly less wet looking. The differences are subtle though, but if you see them side by side on two panels, you can spot the difference.
 
Scottwax said:
My experience between the two combinations is that #7 or #81/#26 will have a slightly darker, softer and more liquid look and VM/S100 will have a slightly brighter look with stronger reflections and slighly less wet looking. The differences are subtle though, but if you see them side by side on two panels, you can spot the difference.
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Scottwax,



Thanks for sharing your experiences with these products.



Guess I'm going to have to see it for myself. Right now I'm not sure which combo sounds better, the "wetter look" or the "brighter look".



I wouldn't be surprised if in the next few months I change completely to Meg's products. Their pro products are very good, easily accessible (many locally), reasonably priced and can be purchased in large quantities, and with the introduction of some new products in the next few months I may just find a Meg's distributor and keep him busy for awhile.
 
NHBFAN-I was quite happy using Meguiars products exclusively in my detailing business for serveral years before discovering Autopia and combining different combinations of products looking for the ultimate combination.



Two products I absolutely cannot do without are DACP and Swirl Free Polish.
 
I use #26 most of the time because it's so cheap and such a great product but when I tried S100 I thought it was a bit nicer. The S100 seemed to make it look a little more wow but really the difference is not much.



I've been using EX-P recently and it actually looks pretty similar to S100. I did the hood of my Mazda with DACP ->#81->EX-P and then did half of the hood with S100 to see the difference and the only thing I could see is that the S100 filled in scratches a little better. Not much of a difference in color or anything else.
 
I used #26 on my prior 97 Oyster Pearl ES300 for about six years and I have been using P21S and S100 on my 2004 ES330 for 7 months. Here are my conclusions:



1. S100 is far better in terms of gloss and reflectively.



2. S100 is HUGELY better in terms of application.



3. #26 imparts a slightly yellow, warm glow that looks great on metallics, with the exception of white.



4. #26 is a fine wax but simply not in the same league as S100 or P21S.



One man's opinion, your mileage may vary.
 
S-100 is one of my favorite waxes mainly for its ease of use first, good looks second, but I know it does not last as long as #16 which to me is the equal or better to S-100 looks wise. It's just not as easy to use as S-100. I use both and like them both. Easy to re-wax often with S-100. I have topped EX-P with S-100 or #16. Both nice.



#26 Liquid applied with a PC or hand, and I agree with the warm "yellowish" look on white/light comment above. (EX-P and #16 really caught my attention what white really was.)I used to use #7 and #26 on white and actually liked the "soft" look and #7 is a great filling glaze, IMO. #26 Liquid does give a dark color a great look and lasts about two months, maybe more.:nixweiss Never waited longer to see.
 
III said:
So for those who like #26, do you prefer liquid or paste?
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I prefer the liquid. No real reason other than I think it is a bit easier to use and I can buy it by the gallon.



Just FYI, anyone who has the Guru Reports Wax Test, look on the back cover. 7 of those cars are my customer's cars and every one of them was done with #26. ;)
 
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