2020 Health & Fitness Thread

Now *that* really surprises me! Although I suspect that practically speaking it`s not that different from all the work my legs get during the hours of daily chores (which can get me as sore as a maxed-out lifting session, fair bit of to-failure work some times since I`m not using a Bobcat/etc.).


Though if I don`t train to failure when I *do* exercise (every 3 weeks for upper legs has turned out best for me although I can go four without any real dowside), I lose size/strength after about 5-6 weeks. Deconditioning goes faster for my other muscle groups since they don`t get used as much all the time.



Yeah, otherwise some guys would be benching skyscrapers :D I`d sure *expect him to be maxed out by now..I can`t imagine anybody taking more than ~5 years unless they`re doing something really wrong (as I sure did for a long, long time :o ).



I sometimes forget that I`ve been doing this for decades longer and that unlike most I`m merely tweaking details while primarily working at not suffering age-related decline.

Related- How`s your MMC coming along?



No doubt! I would never be able to maintain my normal condition if I had to train elsewhere/with different stuff for long.



OK, but I`d be a little surprised if he continues to train that way into his elderly years. But hey, somebody somewhere probably does fine with any approach you can think of...look at the stuff Jack Lalane was still doing and the way Bill Pearl continued to train!



That`s getting a lot of attention in some quarters these days.



OK, as long as you`re getting the results you want, that`s all that really counts.

Are you aiming at any specific goal/timeframe to achieve it?

I`m still working on those ~3lbs of bodyfat I`d like to lose, maybe halfway there after...what?...three or so years maybe. As I said, just fine-tuning while working to not lose any size/strength/endurance as I age.

And I *still* haven`t started doing Planks! I keep thinking how you convinced me I probably should (only to quit doing them yourself) and it still sounds right, but I just haven`t done `em! By the time I get to my Core work at the end of the workouts, which take [freakin`] *forever* since I take so long between sets, I`m just so focused on *getting done already* that I don`t want to add anything, much less figure out how to go about something new. Or at least, well...that`s my excuse :o


As far as timeline goes... I really try not to put an end date on stuff like this. It doesn`t work that way and you really have to be prepared to commit to the process. Sometimes it doesn`t go according to schedule. That said, diet fatigue is def setting in. Honestly, I`d have probably already ended the cut if it weren`t for gyms being closed. They open soon, but I`m not gonna jump back in right away. Hoping to be back in the gym middle of next month. I def plan on transitioning into a bulk in August. So I`m kinda planning on cutting until 4th of july, then slowly transitioning back to maintenance cals over the month of July, then into a slight surplus in August. Just hope nothing else happens with the virus and places closing. I can train effectively enough at home to retain muscle while cutting, but I just don`t see it being enough to put on bulk.
 
jrock645- Noting that it`s not mid-June yet, are you OK with going to the gym at this point?

I hope your cut/maintain/bulk cycling gives the results you`re after; I guess I`m just gonna be spending the rest of my life in, basically, Maintenance mode, still just a matter of not fixing what`s not broken. Though I can definitely tell some benefits from not having those Denny`s bfasts, bit of food-for-thought there.
 
You should be able to dine again at Denny’s soon,no?

I could go this Fri. but I can`t shake the idea that it`d introduce a zillion unmanageable variables that I can simply avoid by staying home. Other than once/week grocery trips during Senior`s Hour we`re basically still quarantining, very different from thinking about every person that`s in the restaurant and everybody they might have come in contact with over the last two weeks...

We simply *cannot* catch this Virus. WE are the support system for our friends, and despite what people say IMO we don`t really have anybody to serve as an adequate support system for *us* in this case, what with BFF having moved to SC. Heh heh, that`s the one downside of being the "young healthy guy" (well, relatively speaking regarding the "young").
 
jrock645- Noting that it`s not mid-June yet, are you OK with going to the gym at this point?

I hope your cut/maintain/bulk cycling gives the results you`re after; I guess I`m just gonna be spending the rest of my life in, basically, Maintenance mode, still just a matter of not fixing what`s not broken. Though I can definitely tell some benefits from not having those Denny`s bfasts, bit of food-for-thought there.

two more weeks and I’m back in the gym. Also, have a DEXA scan scheduled for June 13th. Curious to see where I land on that one.
 
jrock645- Could you please school me on the DEXA scan? Gee....the things I don`t know! :o

Two more weeks huh? I bet you`kk *really* be ready by then, watch you don`t overdo it..that`d be *so* tempting if I were in your shoes.
 
jrock645- Could you please school me on the DEXA scan? Gee....the things I don`t know! :o

Two more weeks huh? I bet you`kk *really* be ready by then, watch you don`t overdo it..that`d be *so* tempting if I were in your shoes.


Dexa scan- also known as a bone density scan but it can also be used to measure bodyfat. Basically the most accurate method readily available for checking bodyfat.

No overdoing it here, just trying to stick to the plan and stay on schedule.
 
jroack645- Ah, OK...thanks for explaining! Hey, I`m the last guy to call anything like that overkill ;) I mean, gee...I had my bf% done weekly for years even though it never really varied much.

As for overdoing it in the gym, what`s the plan for getting back to proper-equip workouts?
 
jroack645- Ah, OK...thanks for explaining! Hey, I`m the last guy to call anything like that overkill ;) I mean, gee...I had my bf% done weekly for years even though it never really varied much.

As for overdoing it in the gym, what`s the plan for getting back to proper-equip workouts?


Im gonna go to the gym on my bday, 6-15. Hopefully be back in it feom then on at least most days. At this point im just making up my workouts as i go, using the same or similar movements and a similar type format as what menno drew up. Making it up as i go makes it a bit more interesting and gets me a bit more motivated. Ill be so glad to be back in the gym though.

Took it a bit easy this week. 18 hours detailing cars sunday and monday and still felt beat up so i rested yesterday. Ill get back to doing something today.
 
jrock645- Noting that I`m sure you see this comment coming ;) I`m glad you took a little break since you felt the Detailing (which I wouldn`t consider normal).

AND, I like that you`re being instinctive about your at-home training! You do know a lot, and I always think that *you* might well be the best expert when it comes to, well...you.

Now as long as they keep things nice and safe in that gym...
 
jrock645- Noting that I`m sure you see this comment coming ;) I`m glad you took a little break since you felt the Detailing (which I wouldn`t consider normal).

AND, I like that you`re being instinctive about your at-home training! You do know a lot, and I always think that *you* might well be the best expert when it comes to, well...you.

Now as long as they keep things nice and safe in that gym...

from the email i got, theyre doing what they can. Requiring masks, equipment being removed or repositioned, capacity limits, requiring everyone bring a towel to sit on/against equipment they`re using. Seems reasonable enough for me.
 
jrock645- OK, sounds good...if everybody gets onboard. The pix from our local gyms show people without masks...while the text of the article says everybody has to wear them.

Heh heh, I wouldn`t enjoy doing squats with my N95 on!
 
After three months of no Denny`s bfasts, I`m making good, and vastly quicker, progress on losing that ~3lbs of bodyfat I could do without. Over the last 18 months or so I`d lost the first pound or so, and now I`ve lost about half of it. I`d figured it`d take about three years, but bfasting at home has really accelerated that. Slow and steady, incremental progress...
 
2020 Health & Fitness Thread

Hey that’s really great! It sounds like your
weight isn’t fluctuating too. Mine does a little within three pounds. Walking usually kills them at least for a little while. I’m not dieting at all so I bet if I did that, the three pounds would stay off permanently.
 
Bill D- Yeah, my weight stays very consistent as best I can tell...I still never get on a scale except at the Dr. office. Even my "lose ~3lbs of fat" is a guess, and I bet nobody else could ever tell the diff (my *wife* can barely tell and only if she makes a deliberate effort). It`s basically like.."what would I want to improve if I were to enter a physique contest?", just fine-tuning.

Hey, as I`ve said, Dr. Sears (of fish oil fame) would say I`m vastly *TOO* lean, and he works with Olympic athletes.

I had wanted to do that fine-tuning *without* altering my diet appreciably, but the Pandemic = No Denny`s and I`m just rolling with that. I figure it really is just the diff of not eating 1-2 waffles/week, and I hardly ever ate them without first doing an intense cardio session, so I`m surprised it makes such a diff.

[WARNING: broken-record lecture follows: ]

At some point you`ll have to start doing some Resistance Training or your lean weight will decrease for the wrong reason (sarcopenia)..not like *anybody* can avoid that in the absence of RT, just how humans are. Without RT, everybody loses muscle from ~30yo on (at the latest, I think it starts much sooner), and when overall weight stays the same that`s usually because additional fat is building up.

[OK, OK..end of lecture ;)]
 
Been back in the gym for a week and it feels so good.

Had a dexa scan last Saturday..l came in at 13.8%. Not quite what I was hoping for, but I eventually got off track after the first month of at home workouts. Focus and motivation slipped and diet got sloppy.

Oh well, I’ll make some good progress these next 4 weeks being back in the gym, then reverse diet into a lean bulk.
 
jrock645- Glad to hear you`re back in the gym/on-track. And that you`re taking the effects of the lockdown in stride. That was quite an interruption!

I do always wonder about your often-changing diet, but if nothing else you keep it interesting for me to follow :D
 
I went to the gym on Thursday for the the first time since they shut down. Friday I had a pain in my lower back on the left side.... I figured it was some muscles were waking up. Went away Saturday but returned Sunday with a vengeance. Just got back from urgent care. I passed some kidney stones! First time for me.
 
jrock645- Glad to hear you`re back in the gym/on-track. And that you`re taking the effects of the lockdown in stride. That was quite an interruption!

I do always wonder about your often-changing diet, but if nothing else you keep it interesting for me to follow :D

I`m not sure what you mean by that. The diet actually hasn`t changed in months. Adherence has been a struggle, but that`s a separate issue.
 
John U- Yikes! Hope that`s the end of that for this lifetime. Between the long time off and that I bet your first workout was kinda different from the norm.

jrock645- I guess I was referring to "bulking"/"cutting"/"lean bulk"/etc. more than the big changes like to/from Keto. That`s probably just me since I basically eat the same stuff day in day out for years and years with no real changes.

It`s also probably just me since I don`t really value variety and only eat stuff that I like..but I don`t get the "adherence" thing. Why not just eat (healthy) stuff you like, in the right quantities, all the time (other than the occasional cheat-day)? It seems to me that trying to stick to a diet that doesn`t completely satisfy you in all respects would be a losing battle long-term.

Again, all this "what`s up with.." stuff about diets is probably just my weirdness where food/drink is concerned and I don`t mean to sound critical. It`s been years since I`ve eaten the way I used to (i.e., "normally" with lots of beef/starchy carbs/etc.) and now I find it hard to believe I could ever eat like that..didn`t realize how much better I`d feel without such stuff.
 
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