2006 Ferrari F430 (no b4's and new camera)

Top notch detail from you - of course.



If I may mention one thing that would be that your pictures don't look as good as in the past. I felt that yours were one of the best if not THE best pictures. Above a notch from most. These pictures, while beautiful, are missing that typical Menzerna wet look.



What is going on? Time of the day?



PS: I hope that I didn't just make an enemy.:bow :bow :bow
 
bluej511 said:
outdoors its always good to use an f/8-f/11 number, it will give you the sharpest picture, the DOF will still be shallow enough to have the background blurred.
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on a real camera maybe... but at least on all the digital camera's I've owned... f6 and above was just everything in focus.... which is why I've always used lower numbers..



of course the rest depends on how far away the background is, and whether or not you are zoomed in at all....





ignore all the posts in this thread.... you now have a general idea of where you want to try, now just play with it, each shot should be different.



go forth and photograph.
 
tdekany said:
Top notch detail from you - of course.



If I may mention one thing that would be that your pictures don't look as good as in the past. I felt that yours were one of the best if not THE best pictures. Above a notch from most. These pictures, while beautiful, are missing that typical Menzerna wet look.



What is going on? Time of the day?



PS: I hope that I didn't just make an enemy.:bow :bow :bow
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No I understand what you mean. I think Nikon (from what I read) generally have more clean and crisp images while Canon has a more softer image. THe pics were taken when the sun was obscured by clouds at 5:30pm. I played with my camera settings yesterday and I think I found the right ones to take pictures...hopefully.



- To all lower the F-Stop the more light is brought in but the background details will be softer. THe higher the F-Stop the more field of depth and the background will be more detailed as well as the subject. THis is what I read from my book. :)
 
haha told ya lol i think f/8 is the median between blurred background and sharpness, if you go higher in f/stop say 20-22+ believe it or not the image wont be as sharp as say 8-11.



Wtv the lowest f/stop of a lens is, double it and you get your sharpest image. Thats the rule of thumb lol



So if 2.8 is the lowest then 5.6 will be your sharpest and youll get great DOF as well, try 5.6-7.1
 
bluej511 said:
haha told ya lol i think f/8 is the median between blurred background and sharpness, if you go higher in f/stop say 20-22+ believe it or not the image wont be as sharp as say 8-11.



Wtv the lowest f/stop of a lens is, double it and you get your sharpest image. Thats the rule of thumb lol



So if 2.8 is the lowest then 5.6 will be your sharpest and youll get great DOF as well, try 5.6-7.1
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Haha, i think I will let the camera shoot the aperture and shutter speeds on auto for now at least, and keep the ISO at 50.
 
kingDavid76 said:
great work! My dream car that one day i will do too. Is it easy working on those cars?
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Not really, the lower half is a PITA due to its contours. Also, the value of this car is around $250-$300k (new model Ferrari's always go alot more then MSRP). There is NO room for error, so somewhat it is a lot of pressure to work on these cars. Luckily Im getting used to them as this was my 4th F430 I have done.
 
01bluecls said:
No I understand what you mean. I think Nikon (from what I read) generally have more clean and crisp images while Canon has a more softer image. THe pics were taken when the sun was obscured by clouds at 5:30pm. I played with my camera settings yesterday and I think I found the right ones to take pictures...hopefully.

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can be true.. I personally also like nikons.. but a lot of the sharpness you speak of comes from the lens... either camera with a better lens will look better than the other with a worse lens.

- To all lower the F-Stop the more light is brought in but the background details will be softer. THe higher the F-Stop the more field of depth and the background will be more detailed as well as the subject. THis is what I read from my book. :)
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right which is what was said... sorry for the confusion.



what was argued through the posts was personal preference ...whether you like super crisp... or pictures that are focused on the subject....



the other guy was saying to bump it up to get as super crisp as possible... using the highest F-stop possible.



which is a very valid point.



all I was trying to say is, I feel I can get the same crispness, but using a lesser numbered apature to put the focus on the car... if your background and suroundings are out of focus, it brings the attention to the car by making the background less distracting. If you use the right Fstop (not to low) your subject should be as crisp as using a higher Fstop...
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and the scary thing is he used a rotary on it lol i would have bought a PC just to do a ferrari so i dont **** up haha.



01cls hows the paint on the high end cars u working on ie porsche/ferrari/bmw?
 
Frugle said:
[quote name='01bluecls']No I understand what you mean. I think Nikon (from what I read) generally have more clean and crisp images while Canon has a more softer image. THe pics were taken when the sun was obscured by clouds at 5:30pm. I played with my camera settings yesterday and I think I found the right ones to take pictures...hopefully.

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can be true.. I personally also like nikons.. but a lot of the sharpness you speak of comes from the lens... either camera with a better lens will look better than the other with a worse lens.



right which is what was said... sorry for the confusion.



what was argued through the posts was personal preference ...whether you like super crisp... or pictures that are focused on the subject....



the other guy was saying to bump it up to get as super crisp as possible... using the highest F-stop possible.



which is a very valid point.



all I was trying to say is, I feel I can get the same crispness, but using a lesser numbered apature to put the focus on the car... if your background and suroundings are out of focus, it brings the attention to the car by making the background less distracting. If you use the right Fstop (not to low) your subject should be as crisp as using a higher Fstop...
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Can you post some of your pictures please? Doesn't have to be of cars, but it would be nice.



Thanks
 
Hope you dont mind 01cls ill post some examples

Heres one at f/13

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Heres one at f/16, but .25sec shutter (tripod) everything will be sharp, so its good to shoot high f/stops for halogen pics but only if your trying to have the entire frame in focus

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Heres one at f/5.6 see the difference?

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Heres f/5.6 focused on the nose, see the DOF (depth of field, because the cats nose and eyes arent at the same depth, while car paint/panels are)

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Heres f/8 and 30sec shutter at night, car i will be detailing this saturday hopefully

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Heres is another f/8 but as you can see it still blurs the background

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Here is 2 different pictures both @ f/4 (shot with a lens i had to sell) with different focus points

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