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solekeeper

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I just received a flyer with these two new compounds, they look promising.. But looking for expert opinions.



My circumstances- I work on fresh clear body shop (1 day old) And almost every job is sanded with 2000 grit.





Could either of these work for me, with a combination of pads?



first is called G3 swirl remover and compound



The other is Wizards Mystic cut



Thanks guys!
 
G3... sounds like a Farecla product? They've been around a while, mostly in European body shops. My understanding is that they're very "dry" compounds/polishes as compared to what most in the US are used to but I haven't personally used them.



Wizards is another brand that's been around a while; I've seen them on the shelf at my PBE jobber but never used them.



What products do you currently have, or what have you tried? If you haven't given Meguiar's 105/205 a go I would strongly recommend giving them a shot -- they're proven effective and very commonly available.
 
Thanks for the reply.



I actually use m105 with various pads, and I usually finish down to about 80 percent correction. Fine for light colors, for darker colors i know improvements are to be made. I'm looking for last step product, to finish down at to about a 95 percent correction.





I use to use m205, but the oils drove me nuts. So i threw it out. I was thinking a menzerna polish could work, but not sure which..
 
solekeeper said:
Thanks for the reply.



I actually use m105 with various pads, and I usually finish down to about 80 percent correction. Fine for light colors, for darker colors i know improvements are to be made. I'm looking for last step product, to finish down at to about a 95 percent correction.





I use to use m205, but the oils drove me nuts. So i threw it out. I was thinking a menzerna polish could work, but not sure which..
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Gotcha. I'd give Super Finish (SF4000 aka PO106FA) or Power Finish (PF2500 aka PO203S) a shot, either should serve your purpose well.
 
C. Charles Hahn said:
Gotcha. I'd give Super Finish (SF4000 aka PO106FA) or Power Finish (PF2500 aka PO203S) a shot, either should serve your purpose well.
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Thanks again! Curious, you seem to have used these as well as m205..these Menzerna polishes don't have too much residual leftover oils that will cause swirls to re-appear (die-back i guess we can call it) when left in the sun/ washed right?



That was my absolute worst nightmare with m205.
 
The Menzerna polishes do have oils in them, no doubt, but they are a bit easier to work with in some cases. If you want to be really sure you've gotten everything finished down properly you can always do an IPA wipe after you're done. That will cut through any residual fillers in a hurry.
 
IPA wipedown after every section you've polished is very common practice given most/all polishes have a certain amount of oils in them that may hide imperfections. I've gone so far as to do a dawn foam wash after polishing with 205 to make sure it was all gone (just foamed down, let it dwell, then used the leaf blower to dry most of it off, that way I didn't mar up the paint).
 
thanks charles, i've got to do a bit of research reguarding IPA wipedowns on fresh clear.



Spoolin, that sure sounds good. But in a body shop environment.. That really isn't an option. Need to get it done a bit faster.
 
This is a fairly old question, but I just used Wizards Mystic Cut for the first time last week. I am a dabbler, weekend type.. but I like to try different things. I have used maybe 4-5 polishes and run into that age old problem of F'ing residue on matte, black trim. I do not have the time to mask off all the black rubber and plastic on my cars, so I have to either be real careful or chase the white haze with a cleaner when I am done.



This Wizards does away with the problem. It washes off. I do the car from top-to-bottom and wash as I go along. The globs that get between the door jams or trim gets a spray from the hose and they are gone. Maybe you guys with proper lighting and multiple buffers can tell if the actual polishing is better with another brand polish, but 'clean ability' is probably higher on my list.



I found it at Len's Autobody Store online.



Jim
 
Solo - I can tell you, that HD POLISH is what you are looking for. Wipes off without all the oily stuff issue 205 has. As a plus, POLISH looks so much deeper than 205. My favorite finishing polish.
 
Thomas Dekany said:
Solo - I can tell you, that HD POLISH is what you are looking for. Wipes off without all the oily stuff issue 205 has. As a plus, POLISH looks so much deeper than 205. My favorite finishing polish.
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Oh, and it's Body Shop and fresh paint safe. Solekeeper...you gotta try HD SPEED.
 
Thomas Dekany said:
Solo - I can tell you, that HD POLISH is what you are looking for. Wipes off without all the oily stuff issue 205 has. As a plus, POLISH looks so much deeper than 205. My favorite finishing polish.
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Thanks! I haven't heard of it.. Going to search it now to see some correction ability etc.





David you posted at the same time as me.. lol i will look that one up as well.





I also will send you a pm regarding some other stuff!
 
Jim,



I think you're using too much product. With the new abrasives all you need is just enough to keep the pad from scuffing and if you pick the polish up into the pad, there shouldn't be any fling.



Robert
 
Wizards mystic cut and mystic polish I have used at a friends body shop. Overall it worked but the solvent based products were harder to remove than I'd like

basically the residue felt sticky/grabby as the MF ran across the panel.



besides that and them being solvent based, no issues

Still prefer xpert though



as for trim, I mask it to keep them clean and guarantee no issues and I dont do IPA wipedowns anymore
 
Wetstuff said:
This is a fairly old question, but I just used Wizards Mystic Cut for the first time last week. I am a dabbler, weekend type.. but I like to try different things. I have used maybe 4-5 polishes and run into that age old problem of F'ing residue on matte, black trim. I do not have the time to mask off all the black rubber and plastic on my cars, so I have to either be real careful or chase the white haze with a cleaner when I am done.



This Wizards does away with the problem. It washes off. I do the car from top-to-bottom and wash as I go along. The globs that get between the door jams or trim gets a spray from the hose and they are gone. Maybe you guys with proper lighting and multiple buffers can tell if the actual polishing is better with another brand polish, but 'clean ability' is probably higher on my list.



I found it at Len's Autobody Store online.



Jim
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Jim -

you could try doing your trims first, then polish. If you treat all your rubber and plastic first with a protectorant, then the polish doesn't stick to it, and you dont get that awful white haze over everything. Plus try less polish - it's amazing how little you need.
 
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