08 Chevy Suburban from hell

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LazyBoy

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My car has Meguiar's Gold Class Liquid wax on it

(new car, one coat). I want to remove it and use

a synthetic like Klasse, Zaino, or Blackfire.



What do I need to wash with to remove the Meguiar's?



Thanks,

LazyBoy
 
If you have already done surface prep like claying (which takes off the wax) then you'll need to either wash with Dawn or use PPCL. Dawn is tough on paint and I found it didnt do a very good job of taking off the stuff I had on the car, but we won't go there:rolleyes:



PPCL should work great, I love it. On the other hand, AIO should work as long as you work it in a little.....but i'd recommend doing something else first.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by DETAILKING [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>which synthetic are you leaning toward and why? [/b]</blockquote>
Right now: Blackfire, based on reading this board.
Yesterday, it was Klasse because Zaino has too
many steps. I'm having a lot of trouble deciding.
(I'm a newbie who'd prefer to minimize the time
spent on this stuff.)

The car is silver if it matters. A 2002 Subaru Impreza
WRX wagon.

LazyBoy
 
But zaino is actually less steps than KLASSE. What made you think that zaino is so many steps?



Apply Z1, Apply Z2 over Z1, and buff off.....easy as that.
 
I have to agree with DK Z is not complicated nor is it hard to use.



Klasse twins have the extra step of buffing of AIO prior to app of SG assuming both use the same prep work of claying etc.
 
Buffing off KSG can also an 'extra'-step process. Not everyone does it, but as I understand it, KSG is difficult to buff off if you don't lightly mist it with water before wiping.



Also, the Z-1 is only done once every 5-10 coats (or 6-8 months).
 
It takes some getting used too. It can be a BEAR to get off!! There are some tricks that you can use to make it much easier to remove, like spritzing with a QD'er. I don't like to do that, and I have practiced applying it sooo thin that even after setting for 40 minutes it is not THAT hard to wipe off. It's not the easiest, but if you apply it thin enough it is not bad.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by DETAILKING [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>It takes some getting used too. It can be a BEAR to get off!! There are some tricks that you can use to make it much easier to remove, like spritzing with a QD'er. I don't like to do that, and I have practiced applying it sooo thin that even after setting for 40 minutes it is not THAT hard to wipe off. It's not the easiest, but if you apply it thin enough it is not bad. [/b]</blockquote>
DK, was that on your pop's caddie?
 
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >

<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by DETAILKING [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>But zaino is actually less steps than KLASSE. What made you think that zaino is so many steps?

Apply Z1, Apply Z2 over Z1, and buff off.....easy as that. [/b]</blockquote>
OK. I'm clueless. I read a Zaino post with a *lot* of steps,
but probably some were optional, or it wasn't a fair comparison
to the Klasse posts I've read.

I've never done anything beyond the basic wash and wax.
For example, I have no idea if I should attempt "claying" or
if it's appropriate for a new car (2200 miles).

Does someone want to outline the whole process, using
Zaino or Blackfire, for a newbie? Don't forget to mention
which parts are optional.
Or point me to a FAQ?

Thanks,
LazyBoy
 
if you take your hand and place it in a small sandwich size zip-lock bag and glide it over your hood, roof and trunk cover and notice bumps, then claying the finish is in order. It's very easy to do and there are some good products on the market.



If you don't feel any rough or bumpy things on the finish your just fine.



Also remember that most surface contaminates will happen on level surfaces.



Your headed in the right direction, and my feeling about synthetic sealants is that I use Zaino and love it. I don't have any experiance with any others. Really happy with the quality of the finish.



Regards :)
 
I'm also not trying to convince you but the Blackfire product sounds VERY interesting. You get the protection of a synthetic and the appearance of a carnauba. Wow! In addition, you get the added benefit of having a Zero waiting time before you can apply additional coats. Wow again! There's not a product like this in the industry. So read a bit more on the various products and consider all information before purchasing one line. Laters
 
2008 Chevy Suburban LTZ, 87k miles.

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That thing is going to need a carpet kit ;)

Sorry you got stuck with this. I also run into a job like this 2 or 3 times a year. Do the best you can and call it a day :sarge
 
Having worked in the Car Wash business (some years back) I would guess the interior was "cleared of objects" prior to the pictures. I can't wait to see the after shots. Steaming?

Jack
 
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