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Ronkh

Ronkh

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Good luck. If that does t work, find a local vape shop and get set up with a starter kit. Vaping is the only thing that's ever worked for me.
 
mrclean81 said:
Good luck. If that does t work, find a local vape shop and get set up with a starter kit. Vaping is the only thing that's ever worked for me.
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You know what the crazy thing here in NJ is they are trying to ban e-cigs in public places, just like regular cigs.

You would think regulatory agencies would embrace this as a way to reduce cig smoking, a known hazard, to at least something that is unknown but common sense tells you has to be safer for the primary smoker as well as the secondary.

Sheesh, how many carcinogenic chemicals were banned and replaced by suspected carcinogens? I just don't get the e-cig backlash.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
You know what the crazy thing here in NJ is they are trying to ban e-cigs in public places, just like regular cigs.

You would think regulatory agencies would embrace this as a way to reduce cig smoking, a known hazard, to at least something that is unknown but common sense tells you has to be safer for the primary smoker as well as the secondary.

Sheesh, how many carcinogenic chemicals were banned and replaced by suspected carcinogens? I just don't get the e-cig backlash.
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Eyeball over substance. It's pc to hate smokers. I think it's hilarious that the ban smoking in places outside like at entrances to airports, but car emissions and diesel busses burping out black smoke are just fine.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
You know what the crazy thing here in NJ is they are trying to ban e-cigs in public places, just like regular cigs.

You would think regulatory agencies would embrace this as a way to reduce cig smoking, a known hazard, to at least something that is unknown but common sense tells you has to be safer for the primary smoker as well as the secondary.

Sheesh, how many carcinogenic chemicals were banned and replaced by suspected carcinogens? I just don't get the e-cig backlash.
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It's all about the federal govt wanting a piece of the pie. They want the higher taxes like cigarettes to feed the beast that is the fed govt monstrosity.

Good luck Ron! I've tried several times to quit but no luck yet. Have tried e-cigs but not Chantix. Think of how much faster details will go not having to stop for a smoke break every hour! :bigups
 
wdmaccord said:
It's all about the federal govt wanting a piece of the pie. They want the higher taxes like cigarettes to feed the beast that is the fed govt monstrosity.
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Huh? This is our New Jersey state gov't doing this, has nothing to do with the feds. The Federal gov't has been trying to reduce cigarette smoking since 1960 (well, some parts of the Federal gov't). I just don't get why governments don't embrace e-cigs, unless they are afraid we'll get back up to 50% vapers like we had 50% smokers in 1960.

Of course that's kind of the same argument that by legalizing pot everyone will be a pothead, I guess we'll see what happens with that.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Huh? This is our New Jersey state gov't doing this, has nothing to do with the feds. The Federal gov't has been trying to reduce cigarette smoking since 1960 (well, some parts of the Federal gov't). I just don't get why governments don't embrace e-cigs, unless they are afraid we'll get back up to 50% vapers like we had 50% smokers in 1960.

Of course that's kind of the same argument that by legalizing pot everyone will be a pothead, I guess we'll see what happens with that.
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Tomato/Tomahto. Feds/States will regulate anything they can get their hands on especially to collect more tax. Sorry, didn't mean to hijack Ron's need of will power support here. :redface:
 
Not a hijack.

I personally think it's lunacy that everybody is trying to ban ecigs.

Legalize pot, ban ecigs ?????
 
You also have to consider how angry the big tobacco companies are over this. The little e cigs are ok, but they don't have a good success rate. When you get into the bigger more powerful mods that operate off of a juice that the user actually likes and picks out, the success rate is high. Big tobacco HATES this, and lobbies vigarously against it. The truth is that there is usually 3 or 4 ingredients in vape juice. VG (vegetable glycerin, PG (propylene glycol), water, and nicotine, + whatever flavoring that particular juice calls for. That's it..now how many hundreds of chemicals are in a cigarette?
 
mrclean81 said:
You also have to consider how angry the big tobacco companies are over this. The little e cigs are ok, but they don't have a good success rate. When you get into the bigger more powerful mods that operate off of a juice that the user actually likes and picks out, the success rate is high. Big tobacco HATES this, and lobbies vigarously against it. The truth is that there is usually 3 or 4 ingredients in vape juice. VG (vegetable glycerin, PG (propylene glycol), water, and nicotine, + whatever flavoring that particular juice calls for. That's it..now how many hundreds of chemicals are in a cigarette?
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Big tobacco companies are buying up ecig manufacturers fast right now. They see an emerging market. One of the ceo's of a big co actually "vapes" and not smokes
 
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