Using ONR in a conventional wash

I agree with you Glen if you use a quality soap your most likely not going to have a problem or notice a difference. That's assuming all other things being equal like good washing procedures and all.
 
You will probably notice a huge difference only if you have hard water, other then that you may not notice a whole lot using a good quality soap.
 
I tried it in soap and the only effect was a reduction in suds. I did not feel any obvious differences in lubricity or cleaning but then cleaning ability really depends on how much soap you use. That is, if you need more cleaning power you just add more car wash soap. For most ph balanced soaps, you do not increase loss of LSP (stripping).
 
So if using a good quality soap and going on what Todd has stated about quality soaps having polymers and gloss enhancers already built in. Adding more soap is essentially the same as adding ONR to the wash water. So if you need added lubricity and cleaning you have two choices add ONR and loose the suds or add more soap and keep the suds and in the end end up with basically the same thing. I would also think that a good quality soap also has some water softening qualities to it.
 
TroyScherer said:
I usually add 1/2 oz to my 4-5 Gallon wash bucket. As her in Ohio our water is crazy hard...
At times I also add 1/2 oz to my rinse bucket as well.
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Hard water here as well, I use it to soften the water. I've never had a problem with my media getting "sticky" especially now that I use the LC sponge.
 
I had an interesting situation this morning. I put an ounce of BF diamond wash in my gun and added two cap fulls of ONR. It KILLED the foam making ability....sound right?
 
glen e said:
I had an interesting situation this morning. I put an ounce of BF diamond wash in my gun and added two cap fulls of ONR. It KILLED the foam making ability....sound right?
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ONR has always reduced suds on any soap I have used. I also insure I rinse out buckets after ONR to keep the next regular wash also get affected.
 
i recently used some DP rinseless wash & gloss as a conditioner in a regular wash. i really liked it. seemed to help float some of the dirt and grime away. it left a nice slick finish after the rinse.
 
Started using ONR (only) washes in cold weather, but am finding it great for hot weather given my hard water and fast drying issues - obviously using it for most of my washes now.
 
glen e said:
I had an interesting situation this morning. I put an ounce of BF diamond wash in my gun and added two cap fulls of ONR. It KILLED the foam making ability....sound right?
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Don't know if it's right probably is but seems a waste of some good suds:mad:
 
Chris@Optimum said:
You can actually use ONR alone as a regular wash. You won't get the suds, but it will do the job just fine whether you rinse it or not. Added to regular shampoo you will see added lubricity and it will soften the water.
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Being in Ohio with hard water I have started using 1/2 - 1 oz mixed into every wash. It does seem to help soften the water and aid in cleaning ability.
 
glen e said:
I had an interesting situation this morning. I put an ounce of BF diamond wash in my gun and added two cap fulls of ONR. It KILLED the foam making ability....sound right?
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As others have said. This is normal. ONR does seem to reduce the suds of your soap. I think it has to do with the way ONR works. But at the end of the day ONR proved that suds are overrated.

Bunky said:
ONR has always reduced suds on any soap I have used. I also insure I rinse out buckets after ONR to keep the next regular wash also get affected.
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i always add a rinseless product to my washes, reason why is because my water is not exactly soft. its about medium hardness from the dip-stick test i did on my city water so its also chlorinated. so i just add about 1/2-1/4oz for a wash it does reduce suds a tiny bit but not much to notice, now if i added enough for a rinseless then add standard soap then i would not get suds most likely. i just add the onr to soften water, and add alittle more lubricity. i really need to get on the ball and make my small filter cart.
 
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