Clay bar chart

classofshine

classofshine

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So we have that wonderful pad chart that list from least to most aggressive. Could someone in the know create a clay bar chart that shows the same? We have BF, WG, Pinnacle, XMT, Megs, Mothers, and on and on of clay and it can get a little over whelming.
 
I can tell you that BF and WG are the same exact clay bar. I have both and the markings and printed codes are the same on the clay.
 
So, if you were to use clay as monthly or quarterly tradition to clean off contamination, would you still use BF/WG or you would pretty much use the finer pinnacle clY? The reason i asked is, i bought like 3 sets of BF POLY CLAY and im planning to clay 2 cars every 2-3 months depends on the severity of paint contamination and i thought 3 sets would be suffice for 2-3 years.....

Thanks again...
 
ponzy said:
So, if you were to use clay as monthly or quarterly tradition to clean off contamination, would you still use BF/WG or you would pretty much use the finer pinnacle clY? The reason i asked is, i bought like 3 sets of BF POLY CLAY and im planning to clay 2 cars every 2-3 months depends on the severity of paint contamination and i thought 3 sets would be suffice for 2-3 years.....

Thanks again...
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I think you will be fine with the BF Clay. I have never noticed severe marring like you would see from more aggressive clays from it. Just test for marring, otherwise you should be good to go.
 
Some may have a different opinion but I think every two to three months is too much. I can see it every 6 months. If the car is properly protected and cleaned you shouldn't build up that much contaminates that it would need clayed.
 
It seems clay is one of the things that is rebranded a whole lot. It'd still be nice to see how aggressive one bar is compared to another.
 
For using clay every few months I would reach for the sonus ultra fine clay. It is the most gental clay I have and use.
 
I agree that some sort of a clay comparison chart would be a big help

my 2 cents based on what I own in an effort to contribute to such a chart

least aggressive => most aggressive

Pinnacle ultra poly => mothers yellow => clay magic blue => megs aggressive (red)
 
Gurge said:
I agree that some sort of a clay comparison chart would be a big help

my 2 cents based on what I own in an effort to contribute to such a chart

least aggressive => most aggressive

Pinnacle ultra poly => mothers yellow => clay magic blue => megs aggressive (red)
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Is Pinnacle ultra poly really that fine? I've used Mothers and I think it's almost like not using anything.

I've got a bar of BF clay and I'm going to compare them with Clay Magic Blue
 
I suppose a clay chart could work but should it be based on the level of power of the resistance to scratching.

Although the clay story has been told (their are only a few clay manufacturers in the world because of the US patent) there are tons and tons of different formulas.

Higher quality clays tend to remove contamination with out scratching, lesser quality clays tend to scratch more (per power level). I suppose I can come up with chart based solely on the level of defect removal (although I am afraid it doesn 't tell the whole story).
 
Todd Helme said:
I suppose a clay chart could work but should it be based on the level of power of the resistance to scratching.

Although the clay story has been told (their are only a few clay manufacturers in the world because of the US patent) there are tons and tons of different formulas.

Higher quality clays tend to remove contamination with out scratching, lesser quality clays tend to scratch more (per power level). I suppose I can come up with chart based solely on the level of defect removal (although I am afraid it doesn 't tell the whole story).
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Good points Todd, though if people don't know the story of Clay Magic by now and how the patent limits what brands choose to sell clay in America, they should be able to easily find some of that information.
In the end, I think it's better to put out some information which will be useful to the end users than to not. When it comes from a source like yourself, Angelo, and the Autopia-Forums staff, it comes as that much more legit of a source that can be trusted as well.
 
Todd Helme said:
I suppose a clay chart could work but should it be based on the level of power of the resistance to scratching.

Although the clay story has been told (their are only a few clay manufacturers in the world because of the US patent) there are tons and tons of different formulas.

Higher quality clays tend to remove contamination with out scratching, lesser quality clays tend to scratch more (per power level). I suppose I can come up with chart based solely on the level of defect removal (although I am afraid it doesn 't tell the whole story).
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I think it would be helpful to have something. I mean its obvious when its Megs mild vs Megs aggressive. With all the other brands they just call it DP clay or Sonus clay. A chart of some type would be wonderful.
 
Could the chart be somewhat misleading though. Just playing devils advocate here. Wouldn't the aggressiveness of the different clays be dependent on the pressure used by the user, the amount or quality of the lube, the amount of defects and whether or not the user kneaded it to clean areas enough and so on. I think there could be a chart for sure but there seems to be many variables to the end result which could lead some into believing one is actually finer or coarser than another. Just by the manner in which it was used.
 
rzatch said:
Could the chart be somewhat misleading though. Just playing devils advocate here. Wouldn't the aggressiveness of the different clays be dependent on the pressure used by the user, the amount or quality of the lube, the amount of defects and whether or not the user kneaded it to clean areas enough and so on. I think there could be a chart for sure but there seems to be many variables to the end result which could lead some into believing one is actually finer or coarser than another. Just by the manner in which it was used.
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Ture, but couldnt the same be said for the pad chart? I mean you could use M105 with a white pad and get pretty different results then you would with an orange pad.
 
Sure it could but if one were to use those products and post the results then the corrections would be easier to resolve for the user. Pressures, passes area corrected and so on could be narrowed down. But if someone were to come on here and said I used clay lube and this clay and this is what happened could be a different story, that is normally what is said when it comes to claying. Just saying it is normally a much broader explanation compared to polishing.
 
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