ONR seems to get the attention

[Mr. Clean]

ONR is not designed to remove wax. If ONR removed wax because it "cleans" then how come car soap can also "clean" cars yet not remove wax?
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Anthony, nice to see you posting. I will however question your stance on this one. I don't know, but suspect that some soaps do at least degrade the wax/sealant on the paint finish. Add to the the mechanics of washing, there is another opportunity for degradation/removal.

 

[Bunky]

ONR is not designed to remove wax. If ONR removed wax because it "cleans" then how come car soap can also "clean" cars yet not remove wax?

Simple answer is in the design and purpose of the product. How do all-in-one products clean paint yet also leave wax behind? Well once again it's in the way they are designed to operate.

Anthony

I was just mocking how some claim ONR does everything. In my experience, it does not clean tires/wheels very well. I need to find something a bit stronger but can be rinsed with the remainder ONR.

 

[CharlesW]

I was just mocking how some claim ONR does everything. In my experience, it does not clean tires/wheels very well. I need to find something a bit stronger but can be rinsed with the remainder ONR.

Any of the Rinseless washes seem to do OK for my wheel cleaning. To clean and dress tires in one operation with little to no additional mess on the garage floor, I use Bold N Bright.
I clean the wheels with the rinseless product using a body brush and a foam mug scrubber. Then I spray the tires with BnB and scrub them with a brush. I then wipe down the wheel and tire with an old cotton terry towel.
The same basic process works with Spray & Wipe.
Spray the wheel with S&W, spray and scrub the tire with BnB, use the body brush and mug scrubber on the wheel and wipe both down with an old cotton terry towel.
When scrubbed with a brush and wiped off with the towel, the BnB leaves a matte finish which is what I prefer.

 

[Anthony O.]

Anthony, nice to see you posting. I will however question your stance on this one. I don't know, but suspect that some soaps do at least degrade the wax/sealant on the paint finish. Add to the the mechanics of washing, there is another opportunity for degradation/removal.

True, yet ONR is designed to actually leave behind polymers which bond to your surface much like a polymer sealant.

Thanks for the kind words,

Anthony

 

[Anthony O.]

I was just mocking how some claim ONR does everything. In my experience, it does not clean tires/wheels very well. I need to find something a bit stronger but can be rinsed with the remainder ONR.

I understand that and I agree in part....my post was not so much a rebuttal of yours but rather a post to perhaps correct any misinformation some may have.

Take care,
Anthony

 

[Bunky]

Any of the Rinseless washes seem to do OK for my wheel cleaning. To clean and dress tires in one operation with little to no additional mess on the garage floor, I use Bold N Bright.
I clean the wheels with the rinseless product using a body brush and a foam mug scrubber. Then I spray the tires with BnB and scrub them with a brush. I then wipe down the wheel and tire with an old cotton terry towel.
The same basic process works with Spray & Wipe.
Spray the wheel with S&W, spray and scrub the tire with BnB, use the body brush and mug scrubber on the wheel and wipe both down with an old cotton terry towel.
When scrubbed with a brush and wiped off with the towel, the BnB leaves a matte finish which is what I prefer.

I have been using tire dressings and build up. ONR does not seem to affect it much so I have used Meg's APC 4:1 and rinsing with the reside ONR. I wanted to first start with a clean tire.

My Michelins, with the ribbed area, do not seem to clean well or look nice even when clean. They are two years old now on one vehicle. I can apply dressings but it looks like I am just covering up residue.

 

[CharlesW]

I have been using tire dressings and build up. ONR does not seem to affect it much so I have used Meg's APC 4:1 and rinsing with the reside ONR. I wanted to first start with a clean tire.

My Michelins, with the ribbed area, do not seem to clean well or look nice even when clean. They are two years old now on one vehicle. I can apply dressings but it looks like I am just covering up residue.

The Bold N Bright is a cleaner as well as a dressing and that is the main reason I first tried it.
I probably haven't used a dedicated tire cleaner or APC on my tires for a couple of years. Using the BnB every wash seems to work for me. Before the BnB I was using an APC and then applying 303 as my protectant/dressing. The BnB is a lot faster and easier and seems to last as long if not longer.
I'm certainly no tire expert, but I have read that some tires are very prone to discoloration and browning. I don't seem to have that, but the vehicles are usually washed at least once a week so I don't know what the tires would look like after a few weeks.

 

[Luster]

ONR , DP4 , Qew , and PB Spray n Wipe are all great products. They allow us to have very clean cars all the time. People that go on detailing web sites are clean car nuts. What you use to keep your car clean is a personal choice,and in this case all these products do the job.

Excellent point. I bought a gallon of QEW 5 years ago. I still have 1/3 gallon left and I use it on two cars all winter long. It only takes an ounce and it does a great job. Never had any scratching or marring... I just use PLENTY of water and it's no problem...

Water on the floor? Floor squeegee cleans it right up!

I just LOVE having super clean cars in the middle of winter... (Just finished 2 cars actually!)...

 

[Luster]

Also, the popularity of rinseless washes is partly due to our "mob mentality" when it comes to detailing products.
Whenever a product gets hyped for a while, we all think we have to buy it. :wall:wall:wall

Charles I know you made this post almost 6 months ago, but........ I wanted to comment.

Mob mentality!!! You are exactly correct sir!

This whole "FLAVOR-OF-THE-MONTH" thing drives me crazy!!! (Never been a band-wagon type guy.......)

I'm probably the worst for "sticking with what I like" and not going with the crowd!:rofl

 

[CharlesW]

As an update.
The new DP "flavor of the month" is renamed DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss. It replaces the Four in One Rinseless Wash & Shine.
New smell, new dilution ratio, (less per gallon).
Seems to be very similar, but more concentrated. It should now be price competitive with ONR when based on cost per use.

 

[Luster]

As an update.
The new DP "flavor of the month" is renamed DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss. It replaces the Four in One Rinseless Wash & Shine.
New smell, new dilution ratio, (less per gallon).
Seems to be very similar, but more concentrated. It should now be price competitive with ONR when based on cost per use.

I'M ALL OVER IT !!!!

(Never been a band-wagon type guy.......)

I'm probably the worst for "sticking with what I like" and not going with the crowd!

Ooooppppps.

 

[CharlesW]

Probably the thing that helps me keep off the Flavor of the Month bandwagon is my tendency to use a product long enough to form an opinion of it before I buy another. Add to that my tendency to buy gallons of products I like and use a lot of, the Flavor of the Month has usually changed about a dozen times before I can even catch up to the bandwagon.
The biggest problem I have is staying away from sales. I do love a bargain.

 

[Luster]

Well.. probably this time next year I'll run out of QEW... so I'll study up on the latest hype and buy a gallon of whatever-it-might-be-at-the-time!

 

[Mr. Clean]

As an update.
The new DP "flavor of the month" is renamed DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss. It replaces the Four in One Rinseless Wash & Shine.
New smell, new dilution ratio, (less per gallon).
Seems to be very similar, but more concentrated. It should now be price competitive with ONR when based on cost per use.

Good catch CharlesW :bigups I must have missed the memo. I'm just about out of my gallon of 4n1 and I rarely use it as a standalone wash product.