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They make products for a ton of private labels. Their product is not bad, in fact some I liked quite well (I can say that about virtually any boutique line) but nothing I felt I needed to write home about. Their customer service as far my dealings with them was terrible. There pricing looks appealing until you add in their shipping, unless something has changed it was as high as any supplier I've done business with.

It can get pretty confusing looking at all they have to offer, there is a lot of cross over. I like buying their scents in gallon jugs, lasts me a long time. They have a parent or sister company (can't remember the name now) that offers even more fragrances than they do. I was quite happy with their leather and vanilla scents. Just my opinion but the people who would get the greatest benefit from a company like this are those looking to develop or market their own line.
 
GearHead_1 said:
It can get pretty confusing looking at all they have to offer, there is a lot of cross over. I like buying their scents in gallon jugs, lasts me a long time. They have a parent or sister company (can't remember the name now) that offers even more fragrances than they do. I was quite happy with their leather and vanilla scents.
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You might be thinking of Warner Chemical? Right now they have 20 different scents. I have a gallon of the mint one. It smells good but I can't seem to get it to last. I've tried soaking a small piece of sponge and putting it under the seat but that didn't work that well. Any tips?
 
CG products are great. I use many of their products and they are all good so far. From soaps to waxes everything has worked as advertised. Try out some of their window clean. I like it alot more than Stoner's.
 
You are correct, it is Warner Chemical. Here's what I do with the leather scent. I stopped in to the shoe repair shop and had him cut me a couple of little leather circles (fairly thick leather). He didn't charge me. I punched some holes in the patches and put some leather boot laces through the leather patches so that I could hang them under my dash (brake release lever for me). I spray the leather patches with leather scent and it will last up to two weeks. Every post on the baby powder scent said it was terrible and I've heard comments that said the new car scent smells like baby powder, go figure. I've got no idea on the mint.

Here's a link from a couple of years back.

http://www.detailcity.org/forums/ge...hing-new-air-freshener.html?highlight=leather
 
Btw, if anyone is looking for a very durable sealant with a wet, very glassy look try CG JetSeal 109. Durability on my daily driver has been 7 months and still beading.
 
9D4E420 said:
Btw, if anyone is looking for a very durable sealant with a wet, very glassy look try CG JetSeal 109. Durability on my daily driver has been 7 months and still beading.
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Hey, I did not find Jet Seal to last that long. I'm assuming since you were able to really monitor it for 7 months, that you somehow found ways of boosting it, no? Aquawax, qd, something?

It lasted me about 2 months of beading, and another month after that until absolutely felt there was nothing on the paint. I gave it a weekly wash with Gold Class and always quick detailed with Meguiars Last Touch.

It looked good the 2 months it lasted for me during out S.Florida rain season.
 
joyriide1113 said:
Hey, I did not find Jet Seal to last that long. I'm assuming since you were able to really monitor it for 7 months, that you somehow found ways of boosting it, no? Aquawax, qd, something?

It lasted me about 2 months of beading, and another month after that until absolutely felt there was nothing on the paint. I gave it a weekly wash with Gold Class and always quick detailed with Meguiars Last Touch.

It looked good the 2 months it lasted for me during out S.Florida rain season.
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Joy, I just used PB S&G I washed it weekly with CG citrus wash. It was a very mild winter in NJ I'm sure that had alot to do with it.:)
 
HI
Had a great deal of success with products especially the interior cleaners, worked well with extractor. Also like the waxes and polishes, they are worth the money. Shipping was a little slower, other than that ok.
 
No one has ever tried the butter wax? They claim it's the wettest wax available... like nothing else. But I would be led to believe if this is their premier product, it would also be produced and used by other companies. Their advertising on the website makes everything sound like Jesus came down to formulate for them... hyperbole maybe, but butter wax feedback anyone?
 
Aaron Ray Smith said:
No one has ever tried the butter wax? They claim it's the wettest wax available... like nothing else. But I would be led to believe if this is their premier product, it would also be produced and used by other companies. Their advertising on the website makes everything sound like Jesus came down to formulate for them... hyperbole maybe, but butter wax feedback anyone?
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Yup, tried it but I'm not the best person to give you a review. I like paste waxes, period. It just wasn't that special, short lived and like so many other liquid waxes, not bad but not good enough to go back for seconds. If I were driving I would probably steer you towards Liquid Souveran or even Megs #26 (harder to work with because it stains) if you're set on a liquid wax.

There are so many good waxes out there. If you do the prep, you'll walk away feeling pretty good about the results. Now in my very biased opionion, if you're looking for a "wet" carnauba, look at Souveran Paste.
 
Aaron Ray Smith said:
No one has ever tried the butter wax? They claim it's the wettest wax available... like nothing else. But I would be led to believe if this is their premier product, it would also be produced and used by other companies. Their advertising on the website makes everything sound like Jesus came down to formulate for them... hyperbole maybe, but butter wax feedback anyone?
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I does look good, but VERY short-lived. When I used it I got maybe 2-3 weeks out of it. I'm not using it any more.
 
Aaron Ray Smith said:
No one has ever tried the butter wax? They claim it's the wettest wax available... like nothing else. But I would be led to believe if this is their premier product, it would also be produced and used by other companies. Their advertising on the website makes everything sound like Jesus came down to formulate for them... hyperbole maybe, but butter wax feedback anyone?
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The Butter Wet wax is a good looking product....it is wet looking..but very short lived....maybe 3 weeks tops....it looks very nice over a glaze like the EZ creme glaze or even the new Poorboys glazes....

I found that 2 coats gives the best look....

now some of the CG products are very good like thier cleaners (APC's) and some tire stuff....the jetseal 109 is not worth the money ..lasts about 8 weeks tops and falls down after that....I find the M seal lasts longer and looks better in my opinion...

the waxes are nice also...Petes 53 and 50/50

AL
 
Well, the Butter Wax is a liquid and I know where you're coming from since paste (I receive a sample of the Souveran last week from an AG member) is superior, but aside from Butter Wax, what are your thoughts on glazes, especially the creme glaze CG offers? I've tried the Meg's glaze, amazing - but I am always on the lookout for something to replace and enhance my current product line...

Really, my main focus throughout all of detailing is glazes, waxes, and QD's - since most/all of my personal work and for clients reveolves around paint work, not interior or chrome polish etc.

Thoughts?

GearHead_1 said:
Yup, tried it but I'm not the best person to give you a review. I like paste waxes, period. It just wasn't that special, short lived and like so many other liquid waxes, not bad but not good enough to go back for seconds. If I were driving I would probably steer you towards Liquid Souveran or even Megs #26 (harder to work with because it stains) if you're set on a liquid wax.

There are so many good waxes out there. If you do the prep, you'll walk away feeling pretty good about the results. Now in my very biased opionion, if you're looking for a "wet" carnauba, look at Souveran Paste.
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Brace1 said:
I does look good, but VERY short-lived. When I used it I got maybe 2-3 weeks out of it. I'm not using it any more.
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Well actually, that's what I was looking for - something explosive and deep - EVEN if it means it only lasts for a few days or weeks. Simply the most dramatic depth creation, when applied as a sealant/glaze/wax order..... would you think this, or something else would meet that purpose?
 
Aaron Ray Smith said:
Well actually, that's what I was looking for - something explosive and deep - EVEN if it means it only lasts for a few days or weeks. Simply the most dramatic depth creation, when applied as a sealant/glaze/wax order..... would you think this, or something else would meet that purpose?
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Gotta vote, something else. Otherwise it would mean I think this is the best looking product on the market and I don't. When you talk about Glazes and Waxes, you are talking about two different product categories. Sometimes these terms seem to be used synonymously or interchangeably. The easiest way I've found to understand the terminology is to think of it as a wax offers protection, a glaze doesn't. That said, some of the new glazes offer limited protection. Most glazes contain significant amounts of "fillers", a glaze without a topper may only last hours as the solvents evaporate and the fillers disappear. Some glazes contain abrasives, some don't. Once again you will find some manufactures that refer to their last step product (LSP) as a glaze. That's the exception rather than the rule. "ButterWax is a carnauba wax", an LSP and in my opinion not the best looking one on the market. As far as glazes go, I quite like WolfGang's and Pinnacle's. Pinnacle says you can use theirs as an LSP but I haven't tried it. I am going to try PoorBoy's BlackHole and WhiteDiamonds. I've read good reviews and quite like the line. I think I've already mentioned some of my favorite waxes.

Wolfgang Finishing Glaze 3.0 New Formula - New Arrivals

Pinnacle XMT Carnauba Finishing Glaze 12oz - Pinnacle XMT Series

Poorboy’s World White Diamond Show Glaze for Light Vehicles - One-Step Cleaner Waxes & Sealants

Poorboy's World Black Hole Show Glaze for Dark Colored Cars - One-Step Cleaner Waxes & Sealants


I've probably made this as clear as mud and this probably raises more questions than it answers but glazes is an area that doesn't have a well defined standard between manufacturer's. That's about all I can say about that.
 
Thanks so much Gearhead - awesome info. I guess with a glaze, I was looking for something that filled and nourished as much as possible before locking it on with a great Pinnacle Sov etc wax.

Thanks for all the information - if it helps, I have a red vehicle, so the paint can be prepared to be very dramatic, but... since I'm so new to everything, I wanted to make sure I was using the best to get the best look. I know there is no such thing as 'best' since it's subjective, but when it comes down to a lot of these smaller boutique companies it seem like everything is 10 steps better than the rest!
 
Glad to help. There are many quality over the counter products but in most cases I've ended up with one of the boutique products as my favorite. The biggest exception to this is when talking about sealants. AquaWax has fit my bill about as well as any other and it's price right.
 
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