acuRAS82
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Except for Post 19. It seems some may not get the best hydrophobic but that seems to be no issue when used within a system.
Turtle Wax Ceramic Spray Coating
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tom p.
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Accumulator, they (TW) contend that it should last 6 - 12 months so figure we`ll be at the shorter end of that range. The product is so new so nobody really knows yet how good it is...
It would be a simple process for many to use and it`s priced right and they added the name "ceramic" so it`s going to have appeal to many, IMO.
It would be a simple process for many to use and it`s priced right and they added the name "ceramic" so it`s going to have appeal to many, IMO.
My detailer told me his rule of thumb is cut the manufacturer’s durability claim by half. So far he’s been right. I wish all companies embraced transparency like Gtechniq did with their Halo development video. They put their coating on an abrasion machine, ran 10,000 scrub cycles using a sponge and all purpose cleaner with a caustic 12 PH rating.
110° contact angle doesn’t drop until 3000 scrubs.
110° contact angle doesn’t drop until 3000 scrubs.
Dan
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Lol. NuFinish lasts through 52 car washes according to the 30+ year old commercials.My detailer told me his rule of thumb is cut the manufacturer’s durability claim by half. So far he’s been right. I wish all companies embraced transparency like Gtechniq did with their Halo development video. They put their coating on an abrasion machine, ran 10,000 scrub cycles using a sponge and all purpose cleaner with a caustic 12 PH rating.
110° contact angle doesn’t drop until 3000 scrubs.
Those sort of tests are eye rollers. Yes it lasts for that long but how long does it last with the sun pounding on it and rain and birds and road grime....
I`m just glad TW got their act together. Meguiars and Mother`s are asleep at the wheel.
Accumulator
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tom p- Yeah, I for one think it`s great that TW is offering that system (which sounds like it oughta be used that way) and that it oughta be great, and not just for "average consumers".
I`m gonna be watching for long-term updates
I`m gonna be watching for long-term updates
acuRAS82
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Ok, I’m going to say this and it’s not flame worthy IMO:
I used TW Wet Wax a month ago as a drying aid on top of base CanCoat and I wasn’t impressed beyond any other drying aid I had been using over the months (ceramic QD or WaxedShine AquaBoost or even Mckees Fast Wax).
This was only one use, not used as a system, and there may have still been wax from a 2 week prior Fast Wax drying aid. So not ideal. But I wonder if it also excelled best as part of a system (@Dr. Oldz may have experience external from the system). Or it could be leftover wax which Wet @Wax” didn’t like.
I used TW Wet Wax a month ago as a drying aid on top of base CanCoat and I wasn’t impressed beyond any other drying aid I had been using over the months (ceramic QD or WaxedShine AquaBoost or even Mckees Fast Wax).
This was only one use, not used as a system, and there may have still been wax from a 2 week prior Fast Wax drying aid. So not ideal. But I wonder if it also excelled best as part of a system (@Dr. Oldz may have experience external from the system). Or it could be leftover wax which Wet @Wax” didn’t like.
Coatings=crack
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Quit stalling.... try Hydrate. That with a PFM.... one of my favorite things.
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Coatings=crack
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I personally take any of the meguiars ceramic equivalents overcthe TWHS comparable products (haven’t tried the M27, spray coating equivalent).
The ceramic QD is as good or better than CP Ech20 just not as cost effective. Meguiars even offers a try coating.... I feel of the mass consumer products Meguiars is leading the way.
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acuRAS82
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I’m going to try Hydrate... as soon as a few more other gallons get used up here...
And when I do, I’m going to PM Coatings=crack first thing to let you know, before my first post!
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I have noticed a slight darken effect on my trim. Like I applied a trim product. A good thing. Stated it can be used on all exterior surfaces. And yes, my trim beads.
Britsdaddy
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I think for me, I had higher expectations for TW. It certainly looks nice, but I didn`t care for the water behaviour. For the $15 or so, it`s alright, but the product wasn`t for me.
Dan
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So what is better at that price point?
Accumulator
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Heh heh, I gotta chuckle over an Autopian having higher expectations for a product from TW! I`m just glad they`re doing well enough to be worthy of our serious consideration. It wasn`t all that long ago that anything from TW was treated like a joke.
Coatings=crack
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Griots Ceramic 3-1. Taking the ultra expensive sio2 sealants/toppers out of the equation I’d pit this up against anything.
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Accumulator
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Why am I thinking that had somehow been disappointing?
Eh, I`m not gonna go SEARCHing but I thought there was some kind of, uhm...something negative. Or am I misremembering?
You’re right. While it is decently durable like their Poly Wax the water behavior isn’t as good as others. If you want to try a spray on SiO2 sealant that works on panel, trim and glass... pulls minor water spots and boosts ceramic coatings... try a bottle of Nanolex SiSplash.
Accumulator
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Ah yeah, that`s it! Thanks for jogging my memory
I sure won`t be trying any such stuff, but that`s still great info to reinforce as products like that are perfect for a lot of people.
Quick update: After several hundred miles, it was time for a wash. I noticed that it repelled dust & dirt quite well even to the point that I was able to use my leaf blower to "dust" the car between drives. It never saw rain, but I went ahead and washed it using my Griots wash and there was clearly lots of beading as expected. After drying, it still felt like it had a layer of glass on it - super smooth just like it was freshly waxed. I then attempted to put another coat on and was met by some streaking on the hood. Maybe it was the 4 beers I just had or humidity outside, so I wiped it down and just used Bead Maker. So, not sure what happened there, perhaps just getting too greedy with the coating since it is so easy to use. After my 5th beer, I noticed that my white refrigerator in my garage looked a little dull. So I applied the TW Ceramic Spray Coating to it and it looks amazing. I probably have the best looking Fridge on the block now. Thanks for reading.
acuRAS82
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I think the TW Ceramic Spray is robust to be applied regularly, I think that’s why they have the wash, 3-in-1 and Wet Wax.