Feynlab Ceramic Spray Sealant

BudgetPlan1 said:
The Feynlab was very nice; they have some really neat stuff at very nice pricing.

IGL was good too but a little pricey for me.
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I don’t always buy waxes but when I do.... they are infused with the elixirs of the gods.... and also hundred dollar bills.

Not gonna lie.... I snorted a little Mountain Dew Baja blast out my nose as i was reading...


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Coatings=crack said:
I don’t always buy waxes but when I do.... they are infused with the elixirs of the gods.... and also hundred dollar bills.

Not gonna lie.... I snorted a little Mountain Dew Baja blast out my nose as i was reading...


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LMAO I don’t always buy waxes but when I do...
 
acuRAS82 said:
Says the PA / Kamikaze user?!?!?
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Coatings=crack said:
I don’t always buy waxes but when I do.... they are infused with the elixirs of the gods.... and also hundred dollar bills.

Not gonna lie.... I snorted a little Mountain Dew Baja blast out my nose as i was reading...


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Yeah, guess I shoulda qualified that statement a little bit, eh?

Premier is quite nice, works very well but just didn`t give the overall satisfaction of some other of my favorites. Was just missing some of the `giggly-fun` and overall satisfaction of stuff like Kami & PA.

So if I`m choosing between 2 equals like Feynlab & IGL, gotta go lower cost in the absence of entertaining intangibles.

At least that`s the story I`m going with...
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Yeah, guess I shoulda qualified that statement a little bit, eh?

Premier is quite nice, works very well but just didn`t give the overall satisfaction of some other of my favorites. Was just missing some of the `giggly-fun` and overall satisfaction of stuff like Kami & PA.

So if I`m choosing between 2 equals like Feynlab & IGL, gotta go lower cost in the absence of entertaining intangibles.

At least that`s the story I`m going with...
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So IgL not quite as nice as kami and Cosmic. Cheaper though so dollar wise makes sense. Would you put Fenylab in same class as Premier?


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Premier is quite nice, works very well but just didn`t give the overall satisfaction of some other of my favorites. Was just missing some of the `giggly-fun` and overall satisfaction of stuff like Kami & PA.
That helps because I have seen so many good reviews for IGL but I was looking for a reason not to buy. I don’t like the high price. I might get some slack for this but it’s the same reason I don’t try polish angel or at least the reason why J have stayed away.
 
Coatings=crack said:
So IgL not quite as nice as kami and Cosmic. Cheaper though so dollar wise makes sense. Would you put Fenylab in same class as Premier?


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Overcoat & Cosmic do better for me than Feynlab or IGL which, in my eyes are functionally equivalent. If I had to use Feynlab or IGL only, Feynlab gets the nod due to cost. I`ve also had some very nice talks w the Feynlab folks in the past so I also prefer Feynlab as an entity which I suppose may sway me towards them as well.

William_Wallace said:
That helps because I have seen so many good reviews for IGL but I was looking for a reason not to buy. I don’t like the high price. I might get some slack for this but it’s the same reason I don’t try polish angel or at least the reason why J have stayed away.
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IGL had a lotta hype associated with it a year or so ago (a la Angelwax, Beadmaker when they were first released/avaliable) so it was tough to find a bad review about it. Not that it deserved a bad review as it is a very good product in its class, *among* the best in the segment but impartial opinions were hard to find. It`s the equal of many good choices (like Feynlab) but the higher cost is notable given the lack of other notable (or intangible) advantages.

Value is such a hard thing to quantify given the overall subjectivity of appearance. In 2017 Spring/Summer/Fall I was using Overcoat nearly exclusively after each wash, largely because it made `pre-air dryer` drying so much easier in addition to refreshing the looks/performance. With 3 cars getting washed bi-weekly, the 250ml bottle I bought in Spring was still 1/3 full by Fall so I got a lot of use outta that $80 purchase, stretching it over 2 seasons. Sticker shock at purchase perhaps but over the long haul, really not that bad.

And while Polish Angel is pricey and doesn`t really have a stellar reputation for durability/longevity, it`s just such a satisfying product line for me. Has a unique look, ease of use is outstanding and it`s just plain fun. Kinda like crack I guess...highly impractical, economically damaging but immensely addicting to some
 
If I had a full car available I would do the Feynlab / IGL comparison. But I don’t really want to break the seal on them for a 2’x2’ area and not use again for 6 months (not sure the shelf life on these).
 
William_Wallace said:
Premier is quite nice, works very well but just didn`t give the overall satisfaction of some other of my favorites. Was just missing some of the `giggly-fun` and overall satisfaction of stuff like Kami & PA.
That helps because I have seen so many good reviews for IGL but I was looking for a reason not to buy. I don’t like the high price. I might get some slack for this but it’s the same reason I don’t try polish angel or at least the reason why J have stayed away.
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I’d recommend staying away from Polish Angel. Budgets crack comparison is spot on. You wont need to buy more..... so you’ll tell yourself.... find yourself at 1AM after a coupon sent unnecessarily looking through the website.... longing.... maybe i’ll just get one.....


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I just have to make it through this next week and My focus will turn to a different product and the process starts all over again comparing this and that ........have u guys seen Sandro’s videos about NOVA Jet!!!
 
I don`t have any other sio2 type spray sealants to compare IGL Premier to but I wasn`t blown away by it. I prepped and even one stepped the truck and applied Premiere like it was a coating with overlapping criss cross pastern and even did two coats. Even went so far to maintain it and use IGL Ehnahncer as a drying aid. It was amazing beading wise and self cleaning for the first couple months, can`t comment on looks as it`s a white truck. Seemed very coating lite to me but started to taper off faster than expected. It may have been pollen season as it seems to "clog" an LSP regarding water behavior on flat panels. This is actually what made me first purchase Reset, which it did bring the beading back to some degree. Don`t recall the interval but a few months into it I lightly reapplied a couple times to hood and other lacking areas which brought the beading back but was shorter lived than the original application.

I decided to move on from Premier, knowing that it should be a really great topper for something if need be. I moved on to Cquartz Lite and it blows the performance of Premiere away. I`m at 8 months in and the vertical panels look the same as they did the first week. The hood is starting to lose the tight beads but a little bit of home brewed Elixir fixed that. With the quantity of the 150ml bottle I`m guessing you have about the same number of applications as a bottle of Premier.
 
The idea of some Spray product that might rival the (functional) performance of my FK1000P intrigues me, hence my interest in this thread...though nothing I`ve read so far has made me want to try anything.

Sounds like most people are using *something* to maintain these products, something beyond what I`d consider a regular Drying Aid and IMO that defeats the purpose (note that I realize that opinion won`t be shared by many here).

Still interesting to me though...never know what might turn up sometime.

One thing did catch my eye though:

gorram said:
...can`t comment on looks as it`s a white truck.
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Isn`t that a complete FAIL looks-wise? I mean..whenever I did my last white vehicle (one very used Crown Vic), it really *popped* in a "oh wow, that`s just soooo impressive!" way. Others commented on it just as they do with my "more interesting" colors, nothing blah about it at all (or else I would`ve redone it with some different approach).

I`m *NOT* flaming gorram`s work by any means, just wondering what`s up other than what it looks like: Premiere + Enhancer = blah, at least on light colors. Or am I missing something?
 
William_Wallace said:
I just have to make it through this next week and My focus will turn to a different product and the process starts all over again comparing this and that ........have u guys seen Sandro’s videos about NOVA Jet!!!
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Not cool! Now I have 3 SiO2 Spray products sitting in a cart from a company I never heard until the post.
 
Accumulator said:
One thing did catch my eye though:

Isn`t that a complete FAIL looks-wise? I mean..whenever I did my last white vehicle (one very used Crown Vic), it really *popped* in a "oh wow, that`s just soooo impressive!" way. Others commented on it just as they do with my "more interesting" colors, nothing blah about it at all (or else I would`ve redone it with some different approach).

I`m *NOT* flaming gorram`s work by any means, just wondering what`s up other than what it looks like: Premiere + Enhancer = blah, at least on light colors. Or am I missing something?
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I guess what I was saying there was it already looked great from polishing (not that it didn`t before anyway) so the spray sealant didn`t enhance it further. I`m sure on a darker color with no paint correction would provide some pop. I was mostly commenting on the beading and cleaning ability of Premier.
 
gorram said:
I don`t have any other sio2 type spray sealants to compare IGL Premier to but I wasn`t blown away by it. I prepped and even one stepped the truck and applied Premiere like it was a coating with overlapping criss cross pastern and even did two coats. Even went so far to maintain it and use IGL Ehnahncer as a drying aid. It was amazing beading wise and self cleaning for the first couple months, can`t comment on looks as it`s a white truck. Seemed very coating lite to me but started to taper off faster than expected. It may have been pollen season as it seems to "clog" an LSP regarding water behavior on flat panels. This is actually what made me first purchase Reset, which it did bring the beading back to some degree. Don`t recall the interval but a few months into it I lightly reapplied a couple times to hood and other lacking areas which brought the beading back but was shorter lived than the original application.

I decided to move on from Premier, knowing that it should be a really great topper for something if need be. I moved on to Cquartz Lite and it blows the performance of Premiere away. I`m at 8 months in and the vertical panels look the same as they did the first week. The hood is starting to lose the tight beads but a little bit of home brewed Elixir fixed that. With the quantity of the 150ml bottle I`m guessing you have about the same number of applications as a bottle of Premier.
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Great Point I have CQ Lite and have applied to a few cars last year and am just getting them back to detail and it’s still there on the car beading water to a good degree. The Lite attached to name sets expectations of 6 months and the product is more like a 10+ at very minimum. Well done carpro
 
gorram said:
I guess what I was saying there was it already looked great from polishing (not that it didn`t before anyway) so the spray sealant didn`t enhance it further. I`m sure on a darker color with no paint correction would provide some pop. I was mostly commenting on the beading and cleaning ability of Premier.
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Ah, OK! Thanks for clarifying that, makes perfect sense and does cast a different light on the Premier + Enhancer.
 
Accumulator said:
The idea of some Spray product that might rival the (functional) performance of my FK1000P intrigues me, hence my interest in this thread...though nothing I`ve read so far has made me want to try anything.

Sounds like most people are using *something* to maintain these products, something beyond what I`d consider a regular Drying Aid and IMO that defeats the purpose (note that I realize that opinion won`t be shared by many here).

Still interesting to me though...never know what might turn up sometime.
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There is one product...

If you get a full year out of FK1000P, then by the power of logic and mathematics you should get 3 to 4 out of this as it lasts 3 to 4 times the length of FK1000P for me, even on wheels. It`s been out for maybe 4 or 5 years in the UK, this is now v3 of the product and is meant to be the most durable. And I know EXACTLY what you mean about enhancing original products with more than drying aids.

https://www.autogeek.net/wowos-crystal-sealant.html
 
roscopervis said:
There is one product...

If you get a full year out of FK1000P, then by the power of logic and mathematics you should get 3 to 4 out of this as it lasts 3 to 4 times the length of FK1000P for me, even on wheels. It`s been out for maybe 4 or 5 years in the UK, this is now v3 of the product and is meant to be the most durable. And I know EXACTLY what you mean about enhancing original products with more than drying aids.

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Product name?
 
Sorry my bad - Wowo`s Crystal Sealant. Now it doesn`t last 3 or 4 years, but for me, FK1000P doesn`t last a year, it lasts a maximum of 4 months. Crystal Sealant lasts 12 months and comfortably does 6 months on wheels, even 9 months isn`t a hard stretch. Got quite a cult following over on Detailing World.
 
roscopervis said:
Sorry my bad - Wowo`s Crystal Sealant. Now it doesn`t last 3 or 4 years, but for me, FK1000P doesn`t last a year, it lasts a maximum of 4 months. Crystal Sealant lasts 12 months and comfortably does 6 months on wheels, even 9 months isn`t a hard stretch. Got quite a cult following over on Detailing World.
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This is an AG product. You could link to it on AG in the future.
 
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