Wheel Coating Water Behavior Discussion

Coatings=crack said:
I believe those were carbon metallic. Carbon fiber would melt like butter. And yes the super suck at dusting.


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Well of course they`re not make from Carbon Fiber, even if it was suitable for brakes, which it`s not. They`d cost an arm and a leg. I`m not so sure the guy working there knew this though because he called them carbon fiber brakes a bunch of times lol. In his defense, I suppose, they do have carbon fiber in the name. I wouldn`t expect the average joe off the street to know they`re not, but it was kind of shameful he didn`t either. I bought them because a few people said for a local auto store they`re really good.

I just Googled them, and this is on AZ`s web site:


Notes:Carbon Fiber
*Performance carbon fiber based pads for aggressive stopping *V-slot design for better performance and longer life *Nitrile weave shim technology for noise reduction *Hardware included where required by OE *Available until stock is depleted
Brake Pad Material:Carbon Fiber

I`ll be damned they actually listed it as the material, they should be sued for misinformation lol.
 
quebert said:
Well of course they`re not make from Carbon Fiber, even if it was suitable for brakes, which it`s not. They`d cost an arm and a leg. I`m not so sure the guy working there knew this though because he called them carbon fiber brakes a bunch of times lol. In his defense, I suppose, they do have carbon fiber in the name. I wouldn`t expect the average joe off the street to know they`re not, but it was kind of shameful he didn`t either. I bought them because a few people said for a local auto store they`re really good.

I just Googled them, and this is on AZ`s web site:


Notes:Carbon Fiber
*Performance carbon fiber based pads for aggressive stopping *V-slot design for better performance and longer life *Nitrile weave shim technology for noise reduction *Hardware included where required by OE *Available until stock is depleted
Brake Pad Material:Carbon Fiber

I`ll be damned they actually listed it as the material, they should be sued for misinformation lol.
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Actually did some late night googling and found the do make carbon ceramic brake pads. No info on how much carbon they have or why. Gimmicky for sure.


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Coatings=crack said:
Actually did some late night googling and found the do make carbon ceramic brake pads. No info on how much carbon they have or why. Gimmicky for sure.


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Gimmicky for parts store/OTC, but OEM`s have been using Carbon Ceramic/Carbon Metallic pads for YEARS.
 
The Guz- Yeah, I don`t see how the philic/phobic are being applied to *THAT PARTICULAR* water behavior, but oh well :D

I might at least try the 22ple on some cad-plated suspension bits if I don`t decide to put it on some wheels. I don`t want it to go bad like my last OptiCoat so I`d better find *something* to use it on. Heh heh, I bet many here would be surprised by how much work those Tahoe wheels would be...for anybody. Infinitely worse than the BBS ones on my oldest Audi, and people usually think those are a pain.
 
Guz

If someone were to be applying a coating for the first time would you recommend the Dlux from CarPro or the Gtechniq. The car I would be putting it on is mainly all painted so I’d only be looking to apply it to the wheels. Not a whole lot of plastic trim on our car.


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Astouffer512 said:
Guz

If someone were to be applying a coating for the first time would you recommend the Dlux from CarPro or the Gtechniq. The car I would be putting it on is mainly all painted so I’d only be looking to apply it to the wheels. Not a whole lot of plastic trim on our car.


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A 15ml bottle of C5 if it is just for wheels. If you already have a paint coating then I would say use that.
 
The Guz said:
A 15ml bottle of C5 if it is just for wheels. If you already have a paint coating then I would say use that.
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No type of coating on hand.

Is a coating for headlights and tail-lights worth spending money on?

Is there a do it all coating for glass, paint, plastic, rims?


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Astouffer512 said:
Is a coating for headlights and tail-lights worth spending money on?
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Use the paint coating you plan to invest in.

Astouffer512 said:
Is there a do it all coating for glass, paint, plastic, rims?
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You can use a paint coating on every surface. Just be aware that wiper abrasion is going to degrade it on the front glass more than a dedicated glass coating. The other glass it does not matter as it sees no abrasion.

For trim if it is new or in new like condition and does not need any restoration the a paint coating will do fine. If it is to the point of restoration then you would want to use something like solution finish, Adams Ceramic Black Trim Restorer, Pinnacle Black Label Ceramic Trim Restorer. Some have coated over solution finish but I did not see any benefit to just adding a trim protectant over it. Adams and PBL look to be identical products. They have black dye in them for the restoration aspect but also use ceramic technology to offer longevity. Either way I would recommend coating the trim 2-3 times a year to keep it looking good.
 
Q regarding Coatings for lenses: do Coatings offer superior UV protection compared to the conventional approaches that`re good at that?

The Guz said:
.. I would recommend coating the trim 2-3 times a year to keep it looking good.
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That`s interesting (well, to me)...seems pretty frequent compared to Trim Sealants/etc.
 
My experiences using a ceramic coating to try to protect lenses that have been wet sanded is that they do not hold up very well.

Opti-Lens would be one of the exceptions. I think you need a urethane based protective layer on top.
 
DBAILEY said:
My experiences using a ceramic coating to try to protect lenses that have been wet sanded is that they do not hold up very well... I think you need a urethane based protective layer on top.
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I wouldn`t have thought a urethane necessary as even short-lived products like OCW work fine (with regard to UV resistance) as long as they`re reapplied regularly.
 
Not after you have sanded off the factory coating. Sealants don`t cut it either. Those things can add to an existing UV resistant coating, but not replace it.
 
Accumulator said:
Q regarding Coatings for lenses: do Coatings offer superior UV protection compared to the conventional approaches that`re good at that?



That`s interesting (well, to me)...seems pretty frequent compared to Trim Sealants/etc.
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If you are asking about protecting after headlight restoration then my experience is no. No coating holds up to protect long term. Not even optimum opti-lens. Maybe it is just me but opti-lens seems to have the shortest durability.

If using it on headlights in good condition then a coating will hold up rather well.

As far as trim, frequent care care is easy car care. A trim sealant doesn`t last that long compared to a coating for trim. That is my experience. But the trim under the coating will still fade especially in higher UV conditions. So reapplication of any type of protectant to keep the trim looking good is good practice. Too many factors affect the durability of any product.
 
The Guz said:
If you are asking about protecting after headlight restoration then my experience is no. No coating holds up to protect long term. Not even optimum opti-lens. Maybe it is just me but opti-lens seems to have the shortest durability.

If using it on headlights in good condition then a coating will hold up rather well.

As far as trim, frequent care care is easy car care. A trim sealant doesn`t last that long compared to a coating for trim. That is my experience. But the trim under the coating will still fade especially in higher UV conditions. So reapplication of any type of protectant to keep the trim looking good is good practice. Too many factors affect the durability of any product.
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Just curious as when you reapply the trim coating product which ever you use. When you have used it before and maybe at 6 months want to reapply. Is a thorough cleaning enough prep before reapplication of the trim coating. With a panel wipe product wipe down before it? Or do you use any mechanical decon step? I have not used a ceramic coating on anything yet LOL. Just some SiO2 products. Have the Soft99 Coating for clear plastic surfaces to trying out on the headlights. I have been thinking more and more about trading in my car so have not wanted to use much of the long lasting coatings LOL. Will see if I find a newer car for me soon. Then it`s coating testing. When you trade in vehicals that is pretty much out of warranty then the dealerships goes by car price listing and how many mileage it`s on the car. Selling them private is such of a hazzle so I usually takes the loss when I trade in the car I have.
 
SWETM said:
Just curious as when you reapply the trim coating product which ever you use. When you have used it before and maybe at 6 months want to reapply. Is a thorough cleaning enough prep before reapplication of the trim coating. With a panel wipe product wipe down before it? Or do you use any mechanical decon step? I have not used a ceramic coating on anything yet LOL. Just some SiO2 products. Have the Soft99 Coating for clear plastic surfaces to trying out on the headlights. I have been thinking more and more about trading in my car so have not wanted to use much of the long lasting coatings LOL. Will see if I find a newer car for me soon. Then it`s coating testing. When you trade in vehicals that is pretty much out of warranty then the dealerships goes by car price listing and how many mileage it`s on the car. Selling them private is such of a hazzle so I usually takes the loss when I trade in the car I have.
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I just clean it with APC during the wash process. Prep wipe with a panel wipe product and reapply. Works just fine as I do it yearly in most cases.

I just did this on my brothers Equinox which was 15 months in between DLUX applications. Even topped it with Gliss V1 just to use up the last of it.

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Is see on the carpro USA website you can purchase 10ml bottles of some Cquartz products, one of them being the Cquartz UK. Would 10ml be enough to properly coat all 4, 17" wheels at the amount of coatings called for by Carpro?

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