Optimum Gloss Coat vs Cquartz Uk 3.0

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I`ve been using OPC for the past few years. How does Cquartz Uk 3.0 differ? Are they the same type of protection? How does durability compare? Ease of application?
 
Ease of application goes to Gloss Coat. Durability and overall performance goes to CQUK 3.0. CQUK 3.0 is much easier to apply than the previous formula.

They are both coatings but each company has different technology.
 
Guz, how does 3.0 compare to the "classic"? The one i recently put on my hood, I bought like 2 years ago. Someone at CarPro mentioned on my IG, that it`s probably several years old.

My guess, if it doesn`t perform, that would be the reason. Dunno.

Gloss Coat and CQuartz both went on easily enough. If anything, LOL, BOTH of those I bought around the same time! oh, that`s funny.
 
JustJesus said:
Guz, how does 3.0 compare to the "classic"? The one i recently put on my hood, I bought like 2 years ago. Someone at CarPro mentioned on my IG, that it`s probably several years old.

My guess, if it doesn`t perform, that would be the reason. Dunno.

Gloss Coat and CQuartz both went on easily enough. If anything, LOL, BOTH of those I bought around the same time! oh, that`s funny.
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Are you asking about the application process, overall performance or both?
 
I actually when I think about it am very disappointed with opti on the prosumer level they should have a stronger offering to compete with UK. Maybe we should boycott until they give us something closer to there prolevel stuff plus it so expensive 10 ml gloss coat vs 30 ml UK. C’mon opti
 
The Guz said:
Ease of application goes to Gloss Coat. Durability and overall performance goes to CQUK 3.0. CQUK 3.0 is much easier to apply than the previous formula.

They are both coatings but each company has different technology.
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Might be just me but I`ve found the original UK version easier to use since it flashes a bit quicker. 3.0 to me takes longer to flash and can be a little bit smeary when wiping off, and a little bit more grabby also.
 
William_Wallace said:
I actually when I think about it am very disappointed with opti on the prosumer level they should have a stronger offering to compete with UK. Maybe we should boycott until they give us something closer to there prolevel stuff plus it so expensive 10 ml gloss coat vs 30 ml UK. C’mon opti
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I`d join your boycott but I think I might not buy whatever comes out. The consumer spray "ceramics" are getting so good that I don`t think there is any reason for me to go back to a coating. They work as a drying aid and last 3-6 months. I keep asking myself what do I need a coating for?
 
CleanIt said:
Where does Optimum Gloss Coat fall these days among the entry level consumer coatings?
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In my opinion and experience Opti Gloss Coat is one of the easiest and most user friendly products to apply. I would suggest it for first time coating guys that are nervous or not confident in their ability to do a coating.

But as far as durability I would put it towards the bottom. This is based on my use in Ohio and winter. While it looks fine the durability is on the lower end and after a year or so I felt like it needed redone. In the grand scheme of things if it’s only going to last a year I think I am better off using a sealant and topper products since it is less work and prep. I think a true coating should last more like 2-2+ years to make the time and prep worth it.
 
TroyScherer said:

In my opinion and experience Opti Gloss Coat is one of the easiest and most user friendly products to apply. I would suggest it for first time coating guys that are nervous or not confident in their ability to do a coating.

But as far as durability I would put it towards the bottom. This is based on my use in Ohio and winter. While it looks fine the durability is on the lower end and after a year or so I felt like it needed redone. In the grand scheme of things if it’s only going to last a year I think I am better off using a sealant and topper products since it is less work and prep. I think a true coating should last more like 2-2+ years to make the time and prep worth it.
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Good water behavior?
 
CleanIt said:
Good water behavior?
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Average. Better that some sealants but not at the level of most other coatings IMO. There are some sealants that are slicker and have better water behavior and self cleaning. But those sealants don’t last as long. I find that with most coatings the crazy water behavior die down after awhile and what you really are getting is the durability and ease of cleaning during the wash process.

If I was going to put the time and prep in I would go CQUK, SiC, Gtechniq CSL+EXO, etc. they have proven 2+ year durability and are a much better choice IMO.
 
TroyScherer said:

Average. Better that some sealants but not at the level of most other coatings IMO. There are some sealants that are slicker and have better water behavior and self cleaning. But those sealants don’t last as long. I find that with most coatings the crazy water behavior die down after awhile and what you really are getting is the durability and ease of cleaning during the wash process.

If I was going to put the time and prep in I would go CQUK, SiC, Gtechniq CSL+EXO, etc. they have proven 2+ year durability and are a much better choice IMO.
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Thanks. I`ve read some good things about Gyeon coatings retaining their hydrophobicity for a good amount of time.
 
CleanIt said:
Where does Optimum Gloss Coat fall these days among the entry level consumer coatings?
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I stand by my original comments. Gloss Coat is not that good in comparison to other coatings. It falls flat on its face not a even a year in. Not worth it when the same can be achieved by Gyeon CanCoat or Cquartz Lite.

CleanIt said:
Thanks. I`ve read some good things about Gyeon coatings retaining their hydrophobicity for a good amount of time.
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The only coating I liked from Gyeon is CanCoat and it is not even a full fledged coating. Syncro is nice but Skin fades quickly. Skin has some great hydrophobic behavior. Mohs has rather underwhelming hydrophobic behavior. Similar to Gtechniq CSL.
 
CleanIt said:
Do you think some of the issues people have with Gloss Coat are due to not using Hyper Polish, which apparently contains a catalyst to help the coating bond? I just randomly looked up Gloss Coat and some people did get great hydrophobics out of it.

Optimum Gloss coat water beading - YouTube
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I think you are over-interpreting what Hyper Polish does. I think one of the ingredients happens to help the Optimum coatings bond, I wouldn`t call it a catalyst, more like a happy coincidence. Yvan`s marketing mumbo-jumbo may have made it sound like a "catalyst", but that`s not the way I read it between the lines. Besides, aren`t you supposed to be cleaning the surface with a prep wipe after using the Hyper Polish?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I think you are over-interpreting what Hyper Polish does. I think one of the ingredients happens to help the Optimum coatings bond, I wouldn`t call it a catalyst, more like a happy coincidence. Yvan`s marketing mumbo-jumbo may have made it sound like a "catalyst", but that`s not the way I read it between the lines. Besides, aren`t you supposed to be cleaning the surface with a prep wipe after using the Hyper Polish?
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Thanks, yes you`re technically supposed to remove all polishing residual oils etc. However, I`ve read that if using Hyper you don`t. I don`t know if that is true or not. That may be taking "synergy" too far lol.

I`m getting mixed reviews on Gloss Coat, but some have really gotten good performance out of it which makes me wonder what they are doing differently.
 
CleanIt said:
Do you think some of the issues people have with Gloss Coat are due to not using Hyper Polish, which apparently contains a catalyst to help the coating bond? I just randomly looked up Gloss Coat and some people did get great hydrophobics out of it.

Optimum Gloss coat water beading - YouTube
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It is a cop out by Optimum so that they don`t take the hit for the coating under performing. Hyper Polish contains no catalyst. It is a pure finishing polish. Just as it was stated that the Optimum Panel Prep contained a catalyst when it is IPA among things. Again a cop out to force the user to stay within the Optimum product synergy.

Product synergy is good and all but there are other brands that don`t have a dedicated polish in their coating line up and one doesn`t see them pointing the finger like Optimum did/does. It was not only Yvan that did this but Dann Williams when he was at Optimum.

I do agree that no oily polish should be used when using a coating as it takes more wipes to fully remove it.

Anyway Gloss Coat was hyped pretty well but just falls short compared to other coatings. I have not used it nor will I use it again based on my experience with it. And I am in Southern California where the weather is nice most of the year.
 
The Guz said:
It is a cop out by Optimum so that they don`t take the hit for the coating under performing. Hyper Polish contains no catalyst. It is a pure finishing polish. Just as it was stated that the Optimum Panel Prep contained a catalyst when it is IPA among things. Again a cop out to force the user to stay within the Optimum product synergy.

Product synergy is good and all but there are other brands that don`t have a dedicated polish in their coating line up and one doesn`t see them pointing the finger like Optimum did/does. It was not only Yvan that did this but Dann Williams when he was at Optimum.

I do agree that no oily polish should be used when using a coating as it takes more wipes to fully remove it.

Anyway Gloss Coat was hyped pretty well but just falls short compared to other coatings. I have not used it nor will I use it again based on my experience with it. And I am in Southern California where the weather is nice most of the year.
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Thanks Guz, that`s disappointing to hear. I guess I can delete my other post over at AG then knowing this.
 
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