Push button start - why ?

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pgp

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The locking keys in the car thread got me thinking about this. Many new cars have push button start, is there a good reason for it ?( I guess your keys stay in your pocket) Is it just something to break ? I have never used it , so that is why I am asking?
 
The cool factor. Lol. My BMW has a start button but you must insert the key fob into a space below it. Now that is stupid!
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
The cool factor. Lol. My BMW has a start button but you must insert the key fob into a space below it. Now that is stupid!
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That does sound stupid.

My previous Honda and current car both have/had it, and it wasn’t like that. Keyless entry and no getting the key in or out of my pocket. I’m a fan of push button start.
 
I have this push button start and key fob in my VW. They call it Kessy I believe. The key fob is a radius based system and thus lets me grab the handle and unlock the door without pulling the key out of my pocket. I can also lock the car similarly. It then also lets me start the car via push button.

I don’t know if there is really anything more to to it from manufacturers other than convenience. It’s nice to put the key in my pocket and never need to pull it out. I don’t see any major issue other then the fib battery needing replaced. In most of today’s cars that uses keys in the ignition it is just reading and verifying the key info and then sending a starter signal similar to how push button start works.

The one thing I dislike about VWs implementation is that it does away with the option of remote start unless you are willing to give up a key and hide it in the car so an aftermarket remote start can work. VW doesn’t offer it in my GTI and since a key needs to be in the car it doesn’t seem to be workable for me.
 
The car locks and unlocks automatically as you move away and towards it, without action on your part ? I read someplace that the keys can be close by and the car will start and you can drive away. Then you can`t start it again because the keys were left home on the garage workbench. Is this true?
 
My current car has the fob and key in one, I had one fail and the car would not start. It did not see the key. I was at home so it was no big deal. $225 or so if I had to pay for it. There is too much electronics in these cars.
 
pgp said:
The car locks and unlocks automatically as you move away and towards it, without action on your part ? I read someplace that the keys can be close by and the car will start and you can drive away. Then you can`t start it again because the keys were left home on the garage workbench. Is this true?
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Sorry I wasn’t clear.

No the key has a range and I can unlock the door by putting my hand in latch and it will unlock. And if I put my hand at a spot in the outside of the latch it will lock. It’s not a total proximity sensor system.

You are correct about about starting the car removing the key and being able to drive away. I think this part of the system needs updated but you key needs to be practically in the car to start it. If you put the key in your pocket you don’t have to worry about this issue.



My VW is a fob with a flip out key as well but there is no “key ignition”
 
First cars had a crank in the front and you had to crank start them
Then they added the electric starter motor connected to a button
Then the key on the dash
Then the key on the steering column
Then the key on the dash
Now the button on the dash
By 2020 we should have a crank on the front again

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Google Faraday Cage for Car Fobs. Police in our area send notices to residents to cage their key fobs to avoid having your car stolen.
 
The Rogue I am currently in has the PB start. It was weird the first few days of not using a key. But after getting use to it, I will admit, love it. Just have the fob on you and lock/unlock by the button on the door handle. I do understand there is a hidden key in the fob you can use to lock/unlock the doors only. Tech is just crazy. Compared to my 12 Xterra. Today they are 90% rolling computers. I am sure when something breaks, it`s crazy expensive out of warranty.
 
pgp said:
The car locks and unlocks automatically as you move away and towards it, without action on your part ? I read someplace that the keys can be close by and the car will start and you can drive away. Then you can`t start it again because the keys were left home on the garage workbench. Is this true?
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My last van as well as my current (town and country, Pacifica) will raise hell if the key fob leaves the vehicle once it’s been started. And the van won’t start unless the key is IN the van. It’s got a very short range. I’ve been in the van with the kids and my wife walked into a store for a few minutes leaving the van running, and I had to sit there listening to “ding ding ding ding ding ding ding” NONSTOP until she came back or I finally shut the car off (it was winter, needed the heat).

so you won’t get very far if you forget your key at least with Chrysler vans
 
Love it. Never take keys out of pocket anymore. Not to open doors or trunk and not to start. On the rare occasion I don’t have my key in my pocket as I try to enter they car and it denies me, I’m pissed it does not know it’s me ! Lol

Next up the injectable chip do you don’t need a fob. It will desolve as your lease ends.
 
No thanks. I don`t want things like the ignition and (un)locking to be Black Box Processes; I want to be in direct, discernible control of such stuff. Remote lock/unlock is as much as I can appreciate, never used the Remote Start that one car had other than one time just to see how it worked. All the Tech that I don`t want has gotten to the point where I don`t even drive the Service Loaners that my Audi dealer leaves me if I can help it.
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
The cool factor. Lol. My BMW has a start button but you must insert the key fob into a space below it. Now that is stupid!
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My Passat was the same way. I wanted to punch the person responsible but now that people are doing tricks to get cars to start without the fob in the car, maybe it wasn`t a bad idea!
 
JSFM35X said:
Love it. Never take keys out of pocket anymore. Not to open doors or trunk and not to start. On the rare occasion I don’t have my key in my pocket as I try to enter they car and it denies me, I’m pissed it does not know it’s me ! Lol

Next up the injectable chip do you don’t need a fob. It will desolve as your lease ends.
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The injectable RFID is already here. A friend had one "installed" 3 or 4 years ago. He is nuts.
 
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