Review-Poorboy`s beta foam soap

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ViperGuy21

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Review: Poorboy`s beta foam soap

Firstly I want to say thanks to Steve and Dwayne for the opportunity to try this out and give feedback. Beta testing is lots of fun and I appreciate the opportunity every time!

When I received my bottle the first thing I did was open it and take a nice whiff. As others have noted, it is a delicious grape scent. When my dad came outside after I foamed his truck and was 2BM washing and he could still smell the awesome grape scent. I personally love the scent, and found it to not be overwhelming or underwhelming in strength.

I used my Gilmour foam gun for this test. How much water I put in the thoroughly rinsed out canister:

After adding about 2oz(maybe a little less)of soap to the canister and giving it a little shake:

I put the gun to the highest foam setting(E on the Gilmour gun)and went to town:




Thoughts/impressions:
I enjoyed using this product, very nice to work with overall. It provided nice added lubricity for the wash and seemed to do its job well. My problem with it was I couldn`t tell the difference in using a normal soap that I use in my bucket and this foaming-specific soap in terms of quantity and thickness of foam or in added lubricity or cleaning power. I plan on doing a direct comparison between Chemical Guys Citrus Wash and Gloss, Optimum Car Wash and Poorboy`s foam soap once it stops raining here and will do a write up on that. My complaints about this soap is that I wish it was thicker in viscosity, and that it stands out more from a regular car soap. I wasn`t disappointed with this soap, but it just didn`t seem like something super special to me. I don`t think I will be purchasing this as I don`t see the benefit of having this product specifically for foaming instead of using a regular soap.

Thanks again to Steve and Dwayne for this opportunity!
 
ViperGuy21 said:
I used that amount of water because that is the same amount I usually use and wanted to eliminate variables to help me compare with other products
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Understood......... BUT by "removing that variable" you may have introduced other variables.

Maybe it is meant to have a different dilution. Maybe cost per use is another variable.

I understand that there are no dilution strengths or directions yet. That is my guess is the reason for the beta test, to see dilutions give the best results. I have read I think 3 or 4 other reviews that show better foam. I haven`t had the chance to try it yet, cuz I`m waiting for my new gun to arrive (old one not working properly). When I get it I`ll be able to compare for myself.
 
Ronkh said:
Understood......... BUT by "removing that variable" you may have introduced other variables.

Maybe it is meant to have a different dilution. Maybe cost per use is another variable.

I understand that there are no dilution strengths or directions yet. That is my guess is the reason for the beta test, to see dilutions give the best results. I have read I think 3 or 4 other reviews that show better foam. I haven`t had the chance to try it yet, cuz I`m waiting for my new gun to arrive (old one not working properly). When I get it I`ll be able to compare for myself.
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Like I said, I still have about 2oz that I plan on using for a direct comparison with two other soaps once it stops raining. I will try a different dilution on the foam soap with that one. If it takes 4 oz to get `snow foam` the cost per use is going to be pretty high because I doubt it will be 1/2 or 1/4 the price of one of the other soaps I will be comparing it with.
 
ViperGuy21 said:
Like I said, I still have about 2oz that I plan on using for a direct comparison with two other soaps once it stops raining. I will try a different dilution on the foam soap with that one. If it takes 4 oz to get `snow foam` the cost per use is going to be pretty high because I doubt it will be 1/2 or 1/4 the price of one of the other soaps I will be comparing it with.
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Understood. To me it sounds like you got 2 cake mixes, one that calls for 2 eggs, one that calls for one. So one it is for both to remove variables.

CG cwg adds glossers, I believe that ocw adds polymers. So imho it`s apples and oranges. Since in that case they don`t rinse clean. They leave something behind.

Don`t get me wrong, I`m not saying one is better than another, I have no idea since I haven`t had a chance to try it yet. Just different.
 
ViperGuy21 said:
Like I said, I still have about 2oz that I plan on using for a direct comparison with two other soaps once it stops raining. I will try a different dilution on the foam soap with that one. If it takes 4 oz to get `snow foam` the cost per use is going to be pretty high because I doubt it will be 1/2 or 1/4 the price of one of the other soaps I will be comparing it with.
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thanks for the review ...

the beta samples are not meant for comparison to other products, just an assessment of what it does, how it does it, and if it does it well or not, how to improve. Everyone has their favorite products and brands, and our only purpose of giving Autopians a chance at Beta testing is for feed back.
 
Poorboy said:
thanks for the review ...

the beta samples are not meant for comparison to other products, just an assessment of what it does, how it does it, and if it does it well or not, how to improve. Everyone has their favorite products and brands, and our only purpose of giving Autopians a chance at Beta testing is for feed back.
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Understood. However, the best way for me to get products and asses how effective they are is to compare their performance to other products I`ve used. I use other products as benchmarks to try and relate similarities and differences so others may be able to get a stronger grip on what the product may be like. Like I said, I thought the product performed well, but just for me personally, with my limited budget, I don`t think I could justify having this product in addition to another soap. This is simply my honest opinion, as was asked for
 
Ronkh said:
Understood. To me it sounds like you got 2 cake mixes, one that calls for 2 eggs, one that calls for one. So one it is for both to remove variables.

CG cwg adds glossers, I believe that ocw adds polymers. So imho it`s apples and oranges. Since in that case they don`t rinse clean. They leave something behind.

Don`t get me wrong, I`m not saying one is better than another, I have no idea since I haven`t had a chance to try it yet. Just different.
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Like I mentioned to PB, I like to use other products as benchmarks when testing/reviewing to provide similarities and differences to try and convey a more accurate description of performance to those who read my write-ups. Why not, products are compared to each other once they are released, and that is how they will be judged. I understand this is for direct feedback, and did provide some in that manner as well. I try to come at it from more than one angle for comprehensiveness.
 
ViperGuy21 said:
Like I mentioned to PB, I like to use other products as benchmarks when testing/reviewing to provide similarities and differences to try and convey a more accurate description of performance to those who read my write-ups. Why not, products are compared to each other once they are released, and that is how they will be judged. I understand this is for direct feedback, and did provide some in that manner as well. I try to come at it from more than one angle for comprehensiveness.
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Sorry, I didn`t mean to come off like an :ass and I do understand benchmarking, but for some reason to me this almost sounded like comparing a sealant to a wax.

Again, sorry.
 
Good honest reviews is what PBs need in their beta testing and this is a good one. I`ve read all the other tests and they all have been well written and honest. So far it looks like this soap would be best used in a foam lance or use 2-3 ounces in a foam gun (normal for me). It looks like it rinses clean (great for coatings) and smells great. I`m looking forward to buying some after the formula is tweaked. Grape is a good smell. I wouldn`t bother me if a competitor had the same smelling product. Beat them on price!
 
ViperGuy21 said:
Understood. However, the best way for me to get products and asses how effective they are is to compare their performance to other products I`ve used. I use other products as benchmarks to try and relate similarities and differences so others may be able to get a stronger grip on what the product may be like. Like I said, I thought the product performed well, but just for me personally, with my limited budget, I don`t think I could justify having this product in addition to another soap. This is simply my honest opinion, as was asked for
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I totally understand and many people use benchmarks to judge, but in the case of Beta testing for me, we are looking for the Pro`s and Con`s without comparison, only personal opinion.
We sell more than 90% of our products overseas and many of the users will never have used a foam product or have had limited exposure or access to others.

If you think the product should have done xxx better , that`s what we need to know ... give it another shot with the 2oz you have and let us know ;)

rlmccarty2000 said:
Good honest reviews is what PBs need in their beta testing and this is a good one. I`ve read all the other tests and they all have been well written and honest. So far it looks like this soap would be best used in a foam lance or use 2-3 ounces in a foam gun (normal for me). It looks like it rinses clean (great for coatings) and smells great. I`m looking forward to buying some after the formula is tweaked. Grape is a good smell. I wouldn`t bother me if a competitor had the same smelling product. Beat them on price!
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absolutely ... that is what helps make better products
 
Ronkh said:
Sorry, I didn`t mean to come off like an :ass and I do understand benchmarking, but for some reason to me this almost sounded like comparing a sealant to a wax.

Again, sorry.
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I took no offense, you didn`t come off like a jerk. I was just explaining my thought process
 
Poorboy said:
I totally understand and many people use benchmarks to judge, but in the case of Beta testing for me, we are looking for the Pro`s and Con`s without comparison, only personal opinion.
We sell more than 90% of our products overseas and many of the users will never have used a foam product or have had limited exposure or access to others.

If you think the product should have done xxx better , that`s what we need to know ... give it another shot with the 2oz you have and let us know ;)



absolutely ... that is what helps make better products
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Ok, I`ll do that with the last 2oz once it stops raining. I hope what I`ve already posted has helped at least some
 
ViperGuy21 said:
Ok, I`ll do that with the last 2oz once it stops raining. I hope what I`ve already posted has helped at least some
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absolutely ... just try and picture yourself using the gun and a foam soap for the first time .. likes, dislikes etc .. and yes, not every product is for everyone, which gives you the fun of trying something that others may or may not ever see and just one comment from you could change the whole formulation ;)
 
Poorboy said:
absolutely ... just try and picture yourself using the gun and a foam soap for the first time .. likes, dislikes etc .. and yes, not every product is for everyone, which gives you the fun of trying something that others may or may not ever see and just one comment from you could change the whole formulation ;)
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Sounds good. I`m a science(especially chemistry)minded guy so I like testing and experimenting lol. It`s raining like crazy and I`ve got lots going on right now(like graduation)but I`ll do it as soon as I can!
 
Finally got a chance to use my last 2oz. the other day. The only thing I changed was I used a little less water(maybe 4-6oz. less)in my gilmour gun, but the suds did seem much richer and thick this time. The only other thing I could think that could have affected this was that maybe I didn`t have the hose turned on all the way last time and was working with lower pressure last time. I did like the suds a lot more this time and they seemed to cling to the surface of the car pretty well. The scent, as mentioned before, is awesome! I love the fact that I can smell it evidently when foaming the car. One thing I noticed that I didn`t like that much was that when I went to rinse off the suds(don`t normally do this, but I did this time for testing purposes)was that it didn`t rinse as cleanly as I would`ve liked. It eventually rinsed off all the way, but it took a while. The car wasn`t that dirty, and I don`t think that was the issue. It reminded me of how CG CWG rinses when used at high concentrations(Not trying to do a comparison, but if anyone is experienced with that soap too hopefully it gives you an idea of the effects). I still would like a thicker viscosity soap out of personal preference(I doubt I`m the only one though).

Summary:
I liked it, but wished it rinsed a little easier and was a little thicker in viscosity.
 
thanks for the update and second go ...

haven`t heard or seen any problem rinsing ... do you spray or flood? flooding works best ...


we also just received Beta V2 and that will be discussed next week ;)
 
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