Is that the Mothers Foaming Leather Cleaner and the Mothers Leather conditioner? The foaming action of the cleaner really gets leather clean. I cleaned a leather steering wheel that was 20 years old, now it did not bring it back to like new condition, but I was amazed at the dirt I pulled out. Previous to the Mothers foam I had tried all types of leather cleaner plus conditioners type products and the cleaning action was sorely lacking. And the Mothers leather conditioner works great too, adding moisturizers to dried out leather making the leather look great again.