Black Ice = Winning.

**Orinda Auto Detail** · 04-05-2013, 12:24 PM

Since last Friday I`ve but Black Ice on 5 cars of different colors. Of black one or 2, a silver one, a gray one, and a blue one. This stuff really is amazing. I know it`s made for darker colors but it does amazing on any color. Goes on easy, comes off easy. To be fair it is expensive, Kinda. To compare to something like a Fuzion at the same price point I`m using half the product. Very little of this goes a long way with one of the little yellow applicator sponges. The look it gives off(these were all at least 2 step correction it was on). It`s so subtle and so obvious that my GF who can never tell me anything other than "sure its shiny". Asked me what I did to my car because it seems to be "glowing". I really can`t tell what the big difference is and honestly I though it was gonna look like HD Poxy(also montan wax in it) But it`s no where close, it`s WAY better. Black Fire lives up to what every expects and gets. This is be a fixture in my arsenal of "bling it up products". I`ll post all the pics of the work when I get them all up loaded. But I do leave you with a little teaser. 2013 Supercharge range rover. One of the first to get a full strut make over, and is gonna be featured by strut in their catalog. I made sure to tell them the car was detail exclusively with BF products and finished with Black Ice.

Before it doesn`t look bad. It only had like 13 miles on it

Ok so these came back from paint this way. I noticed and pulled them off the car because this was not ok!

Yup I`m that OCD. 3` polishing pad, rotary, very low speed, BF SRC Finishing polish!

It was to cloudy but you can see the BF glow. The people for the photo shoot were dumb founded by the shine!

**ihaveacamaro** · 04-05-2013, 12:26 PM

That last picture is insane!!!!!!!!!

**spiralout462** · 04-05-2013, 12:40 PM

Incredible!!!

**Todd@RUPES** · 04-05-2013, 12:45 PM

Excellent!!!

**dc52nv** · 04-05-2013, 01:02 PM

Amazing!

**Swanicyouth** · 04-05-2013, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Todd Helme

Excellent!!!

Ditto!

Question:

Todd,

Do you feel BI is "better" than Midnight Sun, or is it completely different?

**Addicted2Bling** · 04-05-2013, 01:06 PM

That looks unreal!

**Audi X2** · 04-05-2013, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by ihaveacamaro

That last picture is insane!!!!!!!!!

**Custom Care** · 04-05-2013, 01:55 PM

I`m going to need to get my hands on the photos from that photoshoot some day... I see a BI screensaver in the making

**mrclean81** · 04-05-2013, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by ihaveacamaro

That last picture is insane!!!!!!!!!

Agreed. Cant wait to try this one out.

**Orinda Auto Detail** · 04-05-2013, 02:52 PM

Thanks guys!!!

Originally Posted by Swanicyouth

Ditto!

Question:

Todd,

Do you feel BI is "better" than Midnight Sun, or is it completely different?

Sorry I know you asked Todd, but I`ve use MS a lot as well and could maybe offer some insight. As a stand alone wax BI durability is going to blow MS out of the water. While MS does ok stand alone and the gloss is really insane, I think it was more design to be put on top of BFWD or TpnS to give off that dripping wet black fire look we all know and love. MS by its self at 3 coats I`ve seen first hand be almost completely gone in 5-6 weeks. I`m not sure about Black Ice yet but I did put 2 coats as a stand alone on my Jeep and will conducting a duribility test, I just know Todd said it might be the most durable wax BF ever made. Shine for shine I think the BFWD/MS look is best possible finish you can put on a corrected car. MS Looks amazing by its self as all BF products do. I just think it works best as a topper. Black ICE on the other hand give off a different look that seem to "glow" all by its self. Still waiting to try it on top of BFWD, Ill keep ya updated. Hope this helps

**Dr Oldz** · 04-06-2013, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by Jsmooth

Thanks guys!!!

Sorry I know you asked Todd, but I`ve use MS a lot as well and could maybe offer some insight. As a stand alone wax BI durability is going to blow MS out of the water. While MS does ok stand alone and the gloss is really insane, I think it was more design to be put on top of BFWD or TpnS to give off that dripping wet black fire look we all know and love. MS by its self at 3 coats I`ve seen first hand be almost completely gone in 5-6 weeks. I`m not sure about Black Ice yet but I did put 2 coats as a stand alone on my Jeep and will conducting a duribility test, I just know Todd said it might be the most durable wax BF ever made. Shine for shine I think the BFWD/MS look is best possible finish you can put on a corrected car. MS Looks amazing by its self as all BF products do. I just think it works best as a topper. Black ICE on the other hand give off a different look that seem to "glow" all by its self. Still waiting to try it on top of BFWD, Ill keep ya updated. Hope this helps

See boldface above>>>> It`s not out long enough to back that up!

Just cuz "Todd said" means nothing. He works for PBMA so he will say whatever pushes product.

**Reality33** · 04-06-2013, 06:46 AM

That last pic is just nuts. Very nice Joe!

**ZL1Mark** · 04-07-2013, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Oldz

See boldface above>>>> It`s not out long enough to back that up!

Just cuz "Todd said" means nothing. He works for PBMA so he will say whatever pushes product.

Agreed!

**Orinda Auto Detail** · 04-08-2013, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dr Oldz

See boldface above>>>> It`s not out long enough to back that up!

Just cuz "Todd said" means nothing. He works for PBMA so he will say whatever pushes product.

Yeah he is suppose to push products but... It`s BF product, that guy wouldn`t put his name on something with out testing it. I`ll take his word for it, never lead me astray before.