View Full Version : Which Jeweling Polish ?
EdLancer
06-12-2018, 09:47 PM
McKee`s 37 Jeweling Wax or Merzerna SF3800 ? Still on the edge before making a purchase as both these products I presume are SMAT based.
I read somewhere that a jeweling polish should be a DAT polish and not a SMAT based product which I can understand as SMAT abrasives never break down.
DBAILEY
06-13-2018, 10:29 AM
Scholl`s S40 is another one to consider.
BadgerRivFan
06-13-2018, 11:41 AM
Do you want an LSP in your jeweling polish?
jrock645
06-13-2018, 12:41 PM
Wolfgang finishing glaze
EdLancer
06-13-2018, 01:34 PM
Do you want an LSP in your jeweling polish?
It doesn`t really matter to me one way or another, but the trend towards products for jeweling paint now is like McKee`s 37 Jeweling Wax which is like an AIO with ultrafine abrasives. I just want to conserve as much clearcoat as possible and remove minute swirling from winter elements like snow and ice with my annual details on my personal vehicles.
BadgerRivFan
06-13-2018, 03:52 PM
Gotcha. Two others to consider (one with protection and one without) that could potentially meet your needs are Polish Angel Escalate Lotion and Gyeon Primer.
https://www.autopia-carcare.com/polish-angel-esclate.html#.WyGA4BZOnYU
PA Escalate Lotion is pad dependent based on the level of cut desired. Very little product is needed. Wipe off is super easy and the finish is terrific. Top it off with any wax, sealant, or hybrid LSP of your choice.
https://www.autopia-carcare.com/gyeon-primer-120.html#.WyGCvxZOnYU
Gyeon Primer also has very mild abrasives, and is similar to Essence without any fillers. It is very very easy to work with. The gloss left behind is amazing. Although it’s a primer for ceramic coatings, you can top it with waxes, sealants, and hybrids also if you prefer. I used it to “jewel” one of my show cars and have been very pleased with the results.
re-tired
06-13-2018, 07:51 PM
Mike Phillips seems to like the new pinicale Jeweling polish
EdLancer
06-13-2018, 09:16 PM
Anyone tried Meguiar`s Mirror Bright Polishing Wax ? This product is available with the online vendor that I am about to place an order with.
The Guz
06-13-2018, 09:40 PM
Anyone tried Meguiar`s Mirror Bright Polishing Wax ? This product is available with the online vendor that I am about to place an order with.
It’s not bad. It is an AIO that has SMAT abrasives.
EdLancer
06-14-2018, 10:47 AM
It’s not bad. It is an AIO that has SMAT abrasives. So I take it you`re in the camp that believes that a jeweling polish should be DAT based polish ?
jrock645
06-14-2018, 10:52 AM
So I take it you`re in the camp that believes that a jeweling polish should be DAT based polish ?
I hadnt really thought this was debateable. Fine DAT polish, rotary, pad with no cut. Thats the formula for the technique, no exceptions.
The Guz
06-14-2018, 11:22 AM
So I take it you`re in the camp that believes that a jeweling polish should be DAT based polish ?
Doesn`t really matter to me. An AIO such as Mirror Bright for me are for those times when time is of the essence. I don`t use AIO`s on my personal vehicles anymore. The exception is CarPro Essence or Gyeon Primer Polish which I used as a primer for a base coating from wither brand. For me it is easier to just polish and protect with something that lasts longer. Polishing once a year or every two years (now that my cars are ceramic coated) is not removing that much clear. Today`s modern abrasives are good and not like the rocks in the bottle polishes of old.
Mirror Bright actually has good correction ability . Not as good as say the new D166 AIO. Mirror Bright also won`t win any durability contests. This is what I meant by it being pretty good.
I have used SF3800 and it is a bit oily. I have not used it in a long time but I remember it taking more effort to remove. I am not a Menzerna polishes expert but I thought they were all DAT.
EdLancer
06-14-2018, 11:32 AM
I hadnt really thought this was debateable. Fine DAT polish, rotary, pad with no cut. Thats the formula for the technique, no exceptions.
So if I continue using Meg`s #82 a DAT polish wouldn`t that give the same results as a jeweling polish if I apply the DA on it a little longer with a light polish pad ? I always like the way #82 looked followed by a LSP like Collinite 845IW.
jrock645
06-14-2018, 11:40 AM
So if I continue using Meg`s #82 a DAT polish wouldn`t that give the same results as a jeweling polish if I apply the DA on it a little longer with a light polish pad ? I always like the way #82 looked followed by a LSP like Collinite 845IW.
End result may be comparable but its not honest to god jeweling. And nobody says you have to jewel(or burnish as some prefer to say) to get great looking paint. But jeweling is a specific technique, not simply a matter of what kind of polish you use, or what the label says.
Accumulator
06-14-2018, 01:00 PM
IMO it`s not an either/or with regard to diminishing/non abrasives, but rather a matter of how fine the (final) cut is.
I wouldn`t expect a Burnishing Polish to remove visible marring, i.e., "do correction" as I`d use something far too mild for that.
Not that I`ve done this for years or expect to any time soon ;)
And yeah, I`m gonna keep saying "Burnishing" instead of "jeweling" until all the machinists/gunsmiths/watchmakers change their definitions of those two words. Last jeweler I asked used "burnishing" for this kind of thing too.