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DaveT435
06-17-2018, 08:38 PM
Except for the bottles, which were apparently designed by a complete idiot, S40 is very nice, especially on softer paint. A bit less effective on really hard paint. I prefer it far more than Menzerna 3800/4500 which I was often never really sure was doing much.

Have used with both the LC Crimson Hydrotech pad and Scholls Honey Spider pad, both Flex 3401 and Rupes 15.

Very little product needed on pad, works thru its cycle quicker than Menz 3800/4500. I think Scholls refers to it as their Rapid Diminishing Abrasive Technology or some such marketing mumbo jumbo.

I`m too chicken-sh*t to ever pick up a rotary so no idea how it works with that.[emoji16]

Thanks for the response. Looking forward to using it. I`ve found that a little more aggressive polish is fine on really hard paints. A rotary really isn`t anything to be afraid of. I still have problems not leaving holograms on sharp curves on black cars.

I`m almost completely set up for painting so I guess I`ll find a panel that has ares on it like the ones I have problems with and practice...repaint...practice lol. I`ve finished out a few flat panels with a Jeweling polish and pad with a rotary.

I may have to go 100% rotary soon anyway.

Accumulator
06-18-2018, 12:29 PM
A rotary really isn`t anything to be afraid of...

Right. I`m no Rotary Meister by any means, but I`ve *NEVER* damaged paint with one. Not starting out as an ignorant kid, not hammering plastic panels decades later, and if *I* can avoid an "oops" I`d expect anybody could. I never even did the "deliberately burn a panel just to see what it`s like"!


I still have problems not leaving holograms on sharp curves on black cars.

I commend you for posting that! Heh heh, let alone here at Autopia :D Same here, and if there are holograms on black then there are (much harder to see) holograms on other colors as well. My wife and I have spent countless hours inspecting for `em lest something be visible weeks later under some oddball conditions.

So how will you deal with those holograms if you *do* go all-rotary?

EdLancer
06-18-2018, 01:52 PM
Can’t beat the gloss you get from 3M Ultra Fine Polish + LC Red with Rotary.

To me, jeweling should only be performed after the paint is completely finished down. The liquid should have little to no abrasives and the pad be the finest finishing. You shouldn’t be removing marring or haze. Just building gloss.

Always wanted to get a bottle of Ultrafina SE, the downside of Ultrafina is that it is designed to be used with a rotary exclusively limiting it`s versatility.

Accumulator
06-18-2018, 02:02 PM
Ultrafina was big here for a while...but I thought some were all, uhm...opinionated...about undesired filling that often reappeared quite a ways down the road.

DaveT435
06-18-2018, 02:59 PM
Right. I`m no Rotary Meister by any means, but I`ve *NEVER* damaged paint with one. Not starting out as an ignorant kid, not hammering plastic panels decades later, and if *I* can avoid an "oops" I`d expect anybody could. I never even did the "deliberately burn a panel just to see what it`s like"!


I commend you for posting that! Heh heh, let alone here at Autopia :D Same here, and if there are holograms on black then there are (much harder to see) holograms on other colors as well. My wife and I have spent countless hours inspecting for `em lest something be visible weeks later under some oddball conditions.

So how will you deal with those holograms if you *do* go all-rotary?

First I`ll try doing those kind of edges with a PE-8, which I would have to buy...AGAIN lol. The smaller pad should be easier to keep flat on the surface. If that doesn`t do it hopefully I`ll at least be able to use my Flex mini to clean them up. I`ll just have to stay away from a lot of vibration. Hoping the whole thing is going to be a non issue anyway.

The way I see it if you never admit your inability to do something no one will ever help you learn.

Mary B
06-19-2018, 11:22 AM
Scholl`s S40 is another one to consider.

This one is tough to beat, and I`ve been lookin`.
I end up right back with S40 & Rupes white pads.

There is one out now a new formula Adam`s Finish polish, micro- abrasive infused with SiO2. A bit cheaper.

:hotrod:

Accumulator
06-19-2018, 12:33 PM
I`ll just have to stay away from a lot of vibration. Hoping the whole thing is going to be a non issue anyway.

Hope that does work out OK. Vibration can be dead-serious!


The way I see it if you never admit your inability to do something no one will ever help you learn.

LOVE seeing you post that! If only more people thought that way! Heh heh, there are still [crap]loads of things that I can`t do, but a lot fewer than if I`d never admitted it.