man made global warming a Hoax?

[YoMike]

Just hacked emails of the scientist in charge of the data show they are manipulating the numbers. video the who`s who of it all.

YouTube - ClimateGate Who`s Who (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu_ok37HDuE)

[Candor]

I can`t watch that crap. Powerpoint is a terrible means to express your ideas. I skipped around and saw no emails or anything like that just He said she said. Me personally I would rather err on the side that something is happening. Better safe than sorry.

[craigdt]

Well from what I have heard, this is just another thing that adds to the suspicions of many.

[Junebug]

Global warming as a scam, more and more leading researchers are coming forward and presenting data that points that out. Do some research and you`ll see or keep drinking the OwlGore Koolaid and be one of the sheeple.



And for us 50 and over, we remember back when the chicken littles in the white coats were crying we are going to have another ice age.

[Scottwax]

Penn State is investigating Michael Mann over this:



Michael Mann first of climate change scientists to be investigated (http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d29-Michael-Mann-first-of-climate-change-scientists-to-be-investigated)



Man-made global warming...oops, I mean climate change (they changed the name since the climate wasn`t following the computer models) is a creative way for scientists to get funding and politicians to raise taxes. Al Gore, the Pope of Global Climate Change stands to make billions of dollars over all this. Follow the money...

[dave40co]

Global warming as a scam, more and more leading researchers are coming forward and presenting data that points that out. Do some research and you`ll see or keep drinking the OwlGore Koolaid and be one of the sheeple.



And for us 50 and over, we remember back when the chicken littles in the white coats were crying we are going to have another ice age.



It was on the cover of Newsweek back in 1975. As Scott says `Follow the Money.`

[YoMike]

This is really going to blow Al Gore a new tail hole

YouTube - Update - Climategate - CRU Source Code Explained (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp4sMasX-_8)

[MSOsr]

I think we should destroy the economy because Al Gore (who invented the internet and was the basis of "Love Story") says we should. The internal combustion engine is a bigger threat to the earth than Iran going nuclear.



Mike (had trouble typing this sarcasm)

[BobD]

I`ve always thought that the climate was just changing, like it`s obviously done for a LOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNG time. Like during the ice age.

[Scottwax]

I`ve always thought that the climate was just changing, like it`s obviously done for a LOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNG time. Like during the ice age.



Except now, they`ve found a way to make money off it. Our money. :mad:

[HookEmHorns]

Whether it is a hoax or not, we still need to work on conserving our resources and do better to help the environment out. Just my opinion.

[tenorplayer23]

Unless we study the data ourselves, it would be difficult to determine whether there is any bias or fraudulent activity going on w/in these studies. Personally, I think there is something to the climate changing and it should be of concern to the "world", not just the USA.



Two things you should keep in mind and for those of your who are say, in you twenties, it will be hard to have this perspective.



> There will always be opposing sides to controversial positions & people trying to refute data, especially in academia (or other highly research oriented endeavors). And, there will always be someone trying to "profit" from something like this topic, even under the name of the common good. But, the subject is too large for outright fraud & the number of people with access to the information. This isn`t like Iraq and whether they had WMD`s. You can see the weather yourself, all over the world without the CIA/NSA having to disclose it to you. In my opinion, these email correspondences that leaked are probably as much about the "crying" that somebody`s opinion wasn`t respected, as it was around factual disputes.



> Second, for those of you old enough to have lived through a few more decades, use what we in technology call "the test of reasonableness". Do you think weather patterns since you were a child have changed or not? Do you think that the deterioration of glaziers, Antarctica/the Arctic, data from NASA & NOAA, plus the international highlight on the subject are frivolous? For a reasonable person, I think NOT.



Of course, that`s just my opinion...................I could be wrong! (But probably not:))



See ya. :wavey

[YoMike]

The United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen COP15 in December has been billed as the world`s last chance to stop global warming. Al Gore canceling his speak and hand shaking seminar for 3000 Danes just might be the tipping point of no return. People 2012 is all to real.

In the immortal words of Rodney Dangerfield, "Let`s Dance"

YouTube - Caddyshack clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3A9rLoz_0o)

[MSOsr]

I`m scared that we`re basing our decisions on people who can`t tell us (accurately) what the weather is going to be tomorrow. How many "major hurricanes" were supposed to hit the US this year?



Now that we know that there has been manipulation of data (besides the obvious placing of temperature sensors next to asphalt, outside air conditioning exhaust ducts, etc), I think "the science is settled" crowd needs to reestablish its proof.



Mike

[Junebug]

Honestly, I`m a lot more scared of socialism than I am over this crap. Don`t agree, check out some stories on medicine and indivual freedom coming out of the UK.