View Full Version : Griot`s Buffer and What Pads To Use?
mdrums
11-11-2007, 02:51 PM
I am torn between what buffer to get...PC, UDM or Griot`s. From looking at the Griot`s and looking at how pads mount to the PC and UDM what aftermarket pads like Lake Country will mount to the Griot`s?
BigAl3
11-11-2007, 03:22 PM
get the UDM... http://autopia.org/forum/ultimate-detailing-machine/88388-ultimate-detailing-machine-project.html?highlight=ultimate+detailing+machine
dmbjimi26
11-11-2007, 03:33 PM
I have a Griot`s. I use 6-1/2" Lake Country CCS pads, and I love them. The Griot`s has much improvement over the PC. Better Switch, cooling fan, and better handle.
mdrums
11-11-2007, 03:40 PM
I have a Griot`s. I use 6-1/2" Lake Country CCS pads, and I love them. The Griot`s has much improvement over the PC. Better Switch, cooling fan, and better handle.
The handle on the Griot`s is what I like and the fact they are an established business with a great garuntee/warranty. I am not even sure who the heck makes this Ultimate Detailing Machine these wbsites advertise and sell.
Dang am I confused with out being able to personally look at these products!
dmbjimi26
11-11-2007, 03:45 PM
Did you see the thread href=http://autopia.org/forum/ultimate-detailing-machine/99371-bad-udm-problems-vid-inside.html?
Doesn`t seem too promising. I haven`t had any problems with my Griot`s. I`ve detailed about 3-5 cars a week since April with it. Works like a champ.
BigAl3
11-11-2007, 03:48 PM
I am not even sure who the heck makes this Ultimate Detailing Machine these wbsites advertise and sell.
DavidB is responsible for the UDM and you`re on his website...
dmbjimi26
11-11-2007, 03:49 PM
`Did you see the thread http://autopia.org/forum/ultimate-detailing-machine/99371-bad-udm-problems-vid-inside.html (\"http://autopia.org/forum/ultimate-detailing-machine/99371-bad-udm-problems-vid-inside.html\")?\r\nDoesn\`t seem too promising. My Griot\`s hasn\`t had any problems with over 100+ cars detailed since April. Works like a champ.`
mdrums
11-11-2007, 03:54 PM
DavidB is responsible for the UDM and you`re on his website...
So this website is the manufacture...or this site get`s someone in China or Mexico to build it? Basically what Griot`s does?
dmbjimi26
11-11-2007, 03:55 PM
Have you checked out the thread titled "Bad UDM PROBLEMS"?
Nothing like that with the Griot`s. I`ve been using it since April without any problems. Over 100 vehicles detailed. Works like a champ.
mdrums
11-11-2007, 03:57 PM
Have you checked out the thread titled "Bad UDM PROBLEMS"?
Nothing like that with the Griot`s. I`ve been using it since April without any problems. Over 100 vehicles detailed. Works like a champ.
Yes I have and that is what is turning me off on the UDM...motor and switch issues.
BigAl3
11-11-2007, 04:02 PM
Yes I have and that is what is turning me off on the UDM...motor and switch issues.
like anything else, there are going to be a few bad apples in any bunch. joe from superior shine did a side by side test with the griots and PC (not UDM which has more power) a while back, and he favored the PC as it had more power, etc. if i were to get any dual action random orbital, the griots would be the last one on my list... good luck!
Eliot Ness
11-11-2007, 04:11 PM
I also recommend the UDM, it has more power than the PC.
One obvious shortcoming the Griots has is a non-standard backing plate. It doesn`t use a standard BP like the PC and UDM. The Griots BP is held on with screws. What this means is the availability of BP`s will be limited, especially if you want to use 4" pads with a 3.5" BP.
Read the following thread for a review of the Griots polisher (skip to post#47 for the final conclusion):
I think I like it !! - Car Care Forums: Meguiar`s Online Archive (http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10915)
The switch issue on the UDM has already been addressed and corrected; the switch on the one I have works fine. As for motor problems, I`m not aware of a widespread issue with those. You`ll hear more about any problems here from the PC or UDM because very few members use the Griots polisher. I`m not saying it`s a terrible unit, but the power and BP issues would personally steer me away from that as a choice.
mdrums
11-11-2007, 06:42 PM
I also recommend the UDM, it has more power than the PC.
One obvious shortcoming the Griots has is a non-standard backing plate. It doesn`t use a standard BP like the PC and UDM. The Griots BP is held on with screws. What this means is the availability of BP`s will be limited, especially if you want to use 4" pads with a 3.5" BP.
Read the following thread for a review of the Griots polisher (skip to post#47 for the final conclusion):
I think I like it !! - Car Care Forums: Meguiar`s Online Archive (http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10915)
The switch issue on the UDM has already been addressed and corrected; the switch on the one I have works fine. As for motor problems, I`m not aware of a widespread issue with those. You`ll hear more about any problems here from the PC or UDM because very few members use the Griots polisher. I`m not saying it`s a terrible unit, but the power and BP issues would personally steer me away from that as a choice.
Thanks for that link!
DrivingImpressions
11-11-2007, 08:32 PM
The good thing about Griot`s is it comes with a lifetime warranty.
zzzzdoc
11-12-2007, 10:02 AM
I have owned a Griots, a Porter Cable, and a Flex. Plus have used rotaries, and UDM. Gave away the Griots. Much less power, non-standard backing plates, etc... Bogs down routinely. Definitely bottom of the list. I use the PC for sealant application and carpet brushes. The Flex is rapidly becoming my workhorse. If I didn`t give away the Griots, it would never, ever be used anymore.
YMMV. Just my $0.02