Zaino ZPC Didn't Work

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300WeatherbyMag

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I'm trying to remove spiderwebbing on a 2008 BMW M5 (monaco blue...a dark, metallic blue/black) with a PC 7424XP. I used Zaino ZPC plus a LC White pad...and it didn't do anything. I mean literally nothing, even after 2-3 attempts at 6 full passes.



Based on my research, I'm confident I'm using proper pressure and arm speed...do I need to switch to a better product and/or a more aggresive pad (LC orange)?



What combination of product and pad works well on my particular BMW clearcoat? I am starting to read things that indicate this clearcoat is pretty tough, and my experience the other day seems to verify this.
 
Sounds like you need a more aggressive pad. Z-PC is a mild abrasive product, so if you've got anything more than some spiderwebbing you might need to look elsewhere for something stronger to use first, then come back to Z-PC before going on to your LSP.
 
How about Menzerna products? I was thinking PO83 (the Super Intensive Polish) or the 203 (Power Finish) on an orange pad, and then finishing with either Menzerna PO85 (Polish) or Zaino ZPC with a white pad.
 
I've used ZPC to remove some pretty bad marring, so I'm having trouble believing it didn't even put a dent in the swirls.



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Did you tape off a small area and try on that? Did you shake the bottle well, use enough? What are you using to wipe the residue?
 
i have both the megs uc and the zpc and the uc is has much more cutting power.

just go to any parts store or even walmart and pick up a bottle i think its like 9 bucks.

i have also used the sip and i like the uc more and you can use the zpc as a finishing polish.

the uc does leave a good finish if you know what your doing and can get it to finish good i used it on my black benz with an orange pad and it comes out almost perfect but i will still use the zpc or the megs swirlx.
 
ZPC is not really a great product for swirl removal, more like a paint cleaner. It may remove some swirls on soft clears though.



But you need to step it up to a cutting pad, the white pad will not cut much with the PC, you need orange or yellow. After that if you're still not satisfied, step up your polish/compound product as everyone has already mentioned.



Newer BMW's can have very hard clears so this does not surprise me.



Good luck.

Josh
 
JoshVette said:
ZPC is not really a great product for swirl removal, more like a paint cleaner. It may remove some swirls on soft clears though.



But you need to step it up to a cutting pad, the white pad will not cut much with the PC, you need orange or yellow. After that if you're still not satisfied, step up your polish/compound product as everyone has already mentioned.



Newer BMW's can have very hard clears so this does not surprise me.



Good luck.

Josh
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I'm not trying to insult the OP at all, but regardless of what ZPC's abilities are, it is an abrasive (though the version I have actually has some decent cut to it, but who knows Zaino changes stuff around). Hell, if you spit on a white spad and sit long enough with it on a 1x1 square it will take off the swrils, paint,primer and get right down to metal. I can accept the fact its not working fast enough.



But this sounds like the classic "I'm going to do the whole car at once approach" that always leads to disappointment. I can't stress how important a test area is when you are trying something new.
 
yakky said:
I've used ZPC to remove some pretty bad marring, so I'm having trouble believing it didn't even put a dent in the swirls.





Did you tape off a small area and try on that? Did you shake the bottle well, use enough? What are you using to wipe the residue?
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Exactly. I noticed the abrasives will settle to the bottom of the bottle in the ZPC. You will see a white layer which is the abrasives, you need to shake until this is gone/mixed well.



I would also maybe try a polish designed for ceramic paint like Menzerna if the CC is really hard like you say.
 
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