Why can't Honda get it right?

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RAG

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Honda continues to produce paint that consistently fails (CC/BC of course). I suppose if must be because their clears are so thin...and soft. What ever the exact reason, Honda paint consistently fails prematurely. I'm now starting to see the previous generation Hondas with clear coat failure (I was sure they would have done something about this by now...but obviously they haven't). Too bad too, as I always like Hondas and have owned several...always sold long before CC failer though.
 
i guess big manufacturers have to find a way to "skim" on quality to save costs.. I've had some friends go and get their cars re-painted due to these issues.



Toyota does the same with their choice of "metals" for their vehicles frames. Toyota are known to have the cheapest metals.
 
tumbler said:
Toyota does the same with their choice of "metals" for their vehicles frames. Toyota are known to have the cheapest metals.
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And they're out to cut another 15% in the coming years!
 
Most cars I have seen with cc failure are from american car companies. The quality of the materials used has decreased over the past 10-15 years. My 1990 Mazda has very thick body panels compared to a current mazda, or any current car. It also has one of the smoothest OEM paint jobs I have seen. The cc is just now starting to fail in small spots on the horizontal surfaces after 16 years.
 
RAG said:
Honda continues to produce paint that consistently fails (CC/BC of course). I suppose if must be because their clears are so thin...and soft. What ever the exact reason, Honda paint consistently fails prematurely. I'm now starting to see the previous generation Hondas with clear coat failure (I was sure they would have done something about this by now...but obviously they haven't). Too bad too, as I always like Hondas and have owned several...always sold long before CC failer though.
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What years are you refering too? all paint fails if not taken care of. Honda would be the last I would comment as being prone to paint failure. If anything its the owners, mechanically there soo good people foget they have to actually do something to the car.
 
Yes Chuck, it does. I would still think that applying more paint would help out if the paint is "weaker" than in the past. How much could it cost? I wouldn't mind footing the extra few bucks in the price at all!
 
Working at a Honda dealership, WOW!, they're paint quality astounds me everytime we sell a new car. I see clear coat blemishes all over it, and they are permanent. I cannot believe some of the cars people take home.



I just wish I could tell them sometimes. But that would result in me having no job.
 
Wow, that's weird. I used to own a 1999 Honda Civic HX Coupe before trading it in for a 2005 Ford Mustang V6. Yes, I admit that I sent the Civic to an auto car wash on numerous occasions, but in the six years of owning it, it didn't have a single sign of clearcoat failure.
 
Yes Honda paint/clearcoat sucks. I had a Civic before. It seems that the car can get rusty easily maybe due to poor paint. You can really scratch the paint off.
 
I don't know what you mean by scratching the paint off but when I think of doing that I would think that you could do so with any car.
 
Most Hondas and Toyotas are made in the US and Canada now !, so we are almost back to square one as the big 3 !
 
In California where we have ample sun...black Honda's are the first to go - 10 years is about what you'll get before needing to repaint. Always exceptions...every once in a while I see an older honda with good paint...though usually upon inspection I see that's it's been repainted. Also, I used to work as a ticket writer at a car wash (selling details)...so I got to inspect several hundred cars a day.
 
I'm going to stir up the pot a bit here...





Being a Honda owner for 4+ years, it has been a love hate relationship when caring for the finish. The softness of the clear really boggles my mind.



However, I've worked on about 6-7 new Acura TLs. Each one has had remarkably better paint quality than mine. And by this I mean, less marring (all swirl-0-matic washed), far less chips on the nose, and much better overall condition on the areas behind tires. Compared to mine (1996), the new paint technology is leaps and bounds beyond the old, but still, in the end, Audi/Mercedes prevails.
 
I know what you mean. I started seeing 98 and 99 Accords with clearcoat failure two years ago, mostly on the Emerald Green and the black. That's just unacceptable to me, but I suppose it all depends on how well it was cared for.
 
GSRstilez said:
Compared to mine (1996), the new paint technology is leaps and bounds beyond the old, but still, in the end, Audi/Mercedes prevails.
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until you factor in reliability.....Audi/Mercedes might have better paint, but thats to look good as it's being pushed down the street or parked in front of your house :lol
 
Anyone own a Subaru? LOL The Honda paint on my 2001 Civic EX held up much better than the paint on my current 2005 Impreza. I have rock chips all over this thing already, even on the roof! Luckily Subaru has a 5 year paint warranty!
 
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