Which combo......

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I'm not sure if I can search for the answers but I'm sorry if I didn't. Here are some combos I had in mind but don't know which suits a clear coated black paint. I'll be using a PC 7424.



Combo 1

Wash

Clay during wash

Wash

DACP w/ LC yellow pad

Swril free w/ LC white pad (or yellow?)

NXT



Combo 2

Wash

Clay during wash

wash

Menzerna IP w/ LC yellow pad

Menzerna FP w/ LC white pad (or yellow?)

NXT



Combo 3

Wash

Clay during wash

wash

1z PP w/ LC yellow pad

1z MP w/ LC white pad (or yellow?)

NXT



Combo 4

Wash

Clay during wash

Wash

DACP w/ LC yellow pad

Swril free w/ LC white pad (or yellow?)

AIO

SG



Combo 5

Wash

Clay during wash

wash

Menzerna IP w/ LC yellow pad

Menzerna FP w/ LC white pad (or yellow?)

AIO

SG



Combo 6

Wash

Clay during wash

wash

1z PP w/ LC yellow pad

1z MP w/ LC white pad (or yellow?)

AIO

SG



I know that Menzerna and 1z polish contains no filler but does swril free contain fillers??











If you're part of one of my past thread, the "best sealants?" thread, I'm very sorry and I mean it!!
 
IP or DACP maybe more aggressive than you need for a new car.



Try something less aggressive e.g., AIO, MP, or maybe SFP if necessary.



See if you can prep the car yourself ... skip the dealer's scratch and swirl department.
 
Assuming that you either skip the dealer prep, as NHBFAN recommends, or get lucky and the dealer doesn't scratch/swirl your car, then you won't actually need to use any of the polishes. You don't want to polish if you don't need to because you're removing paint unnecessarily. If you let the dealer prep it and you do get swirls, then I would suggest starting with the least aggressive polish first. Don't jump right to DACP because if SFP is strong enough, then that's what you'd want to use. If SFP doesn't work, then you can try stepping up to DACP.



As for the specific combo to use, I don't think anyone's going to be able to give you a definitive answer. All of the products you mention below have good reputations around here, with many satisfied users. My recommendation: Just pick one, you'll be happy with any of the combos you have listed. Then, worry more about your technique than the products. That's where you can really make the paint shine.



I'm assuming that we're still talking about the brand new MDX you're about to get.



John
 
I would like to add another possible combo if I may! I would use this combo or your number 4 combo but with NXT topper, and minus the DACP step (unnecessary on a new car)



wash

clay

swirl free polish #82 or #9 SMR

Vanilla Moose

Poorboys EX Sealant (optional)

Carnauba Moose Wax
 
The MDX is brand new but it sat on the dealer lot for almost a month and I'm picking it up next saturday so I don't know if the dealer preped it already or not :confused:. Ofcourse, I hope they didn't. I'll phone them to check.
 
So here goes.....



Wash

Clay during washing

Wash

#82 w/ LC yellow pad

3M SMR w/ LC orange pad

AIO

SG



I added 3M SMR because I'm not sure if #82 is enough to do the job. BTW, 3M SMR removes swrils not fill them right?? If so, I know AIO will remove the fillers. I assume AIO and SG is better than NXT (?) but if you're talking about application, that's another case.
 
I'd go with #5 minus the IP. If your lucky the dealer only washed it a few times on the lot and the swirls aren't too bad.



When you get it wash and dry it then inspect it and look for the worst swirled panel and try the FP on it. If the white pad doesn't do it try the yellow. If the yellow doesn't then go to the IP.



Always try the least invasive first.



I have a black cleared car and this is the approach I took.
 
Jesstzn said:
When you get it wash and dry it then inspect it and look for the worst swirled panel and try the FP on it. If the white pad doesn't do it try the yellow. If the yellow doesn't then go to the IP.



Always try the least invasive first.
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Exactly.



Since you are just starting out and/or using unfamiliar products you really should try a more cautious, methodical approach to this. That way you don't use something stronger than what you need by accident.
 
I think the swirls will be quite bad since it sat on the lot for almost a month. The dealer might washed it a few times, god knows. So this is the combo........



Wash

Clay during wash

Wash

FP w/ LC white pad

IP (if needed) w/ LC yellow pad

AIO/SG or NXT or Zaino Z2 or Glaz wax



I want to use LC pads since it seems everyone here used it like it. If I made any mistakes, feel free to correct me, I learned from making mistakes :) (yeah that's me :D)
 
At some point there's no use speculating. You won't know what you're dealing with until you clean it up and inspect it. Some "brand new" cars are in AWFUL condition. Others are just fine.



It pays to have polishes of various strengths on hand anyhow. So just be prepared for whatever and used what's called for.
 
If the car is in pretty good condition, this is what I'll do??



wash

clay during wash

wash

#82 w/ LC yellow pad

AIO

SG x 2 or 3 (1 coat per 24 hours)



If the car is swril pretty badly.....



wash

clay during wash

wash

#82 w/ LC yellow pad

AIO x 2 or 3

SG x 2 or 3 (1 coat per 24 hours)



I assume AIO doesn't have to cure :nixweiss
 
I don't think your recipe for bad swirls looks right. First of all, AIO is mainly a chemical cleaner, so layering it doesn't do much good. It will most likely remove itself with each subsequent coat. The only rational for multiple coats that I know of is to ensure 100% coverage. Also, AIO has minimal to no abrasives (depending on who you talk to) so it won't help a signifcantly swirled car. It's definitely less abrasive than the #82.



how about this instead (if it's badly swirled):

wash

clay

#82 (start here in case the swirls are mild enough)

DACP (step up to DACP 'cause the 82 wouldn't cut it).

#82 (to remove any possible hazing, not always necessary if you work DACP long enough).

AIO (x2 to ensure complete converage if you want... no need for 3).

SG x 2 or 3 (1 coat per 24 hours)
 
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