what should be applied after M85 diamond cut?

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The Enforcer

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this past week i went to the local meguiars store to purchase some of the new 105/205 that everyone is raving about. well....when i get there, the sales lady didnt have any.....and had never even HEARD of it. so this tells me i may be talking with someone who is out of the loop.



so instead...she recommends some M85 diamond cut (ok fine, il try it). i ask her what i should follow this up with (i was guessing M82)....but she said i need to follow M85 up with M3 machine glaze.



so....shes saying go from the most aggresive stuff she had available, M85....to the the least aggresive finishing polish, M3..........this doesnt sound right to me.
 
The Enforcer said:
this past week i went to the local meguiars store to purchase some of the new 105/205 that everyone is raving about. well....when i get there, the sales lady didnt have any.....and had never even HEARD of it. so this tells me i may be talking with someone who is out of the loop.



so instead...she recommends some M85 diamond cut (ok fine, il try it). i ask her what i should follow this up with (i was guessing M82)....but she said i need to follow M85 up with M3 machine glaze.



so....shes saying go from the most aggresive stuff she had available, M85....to the the least aggresive finishing polish, M3..........this doesnt sound right to me.
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Well trust yourself on this one.....Does it make sense to go from the most aggressive to the least agressive? Logic would suggest that you need to select something in the middle.



I do not know what you plan on polishing with Diamond Cut is, but it is a great product on laquer, single stage finishes. Alothugh it works on clear coats, I would opt to wait to obtain some 105/205 myself. It is just a lot easier to work with if you have a clear coat finish and the results speak for themselves.



As far as what the sales lady is telling you, you are right she is incorrect in recommending a glaze (M3) after an aggressive compound, unless of course you wnat to do a "Hack Job". M83 or M82 depending on the hardness of the finish, would be the next logical step for polishing.
 
yea....she said "all the body shops do it this way" and then told me the BS. i cant believe she hadnt heard of 105 and 205. ill just order it online somewhere
 
The Enforcer- Don't listen to her, she'd demonstrated that she doesn't know what she's talking about.



M03 is functionally nonabrasive and not even remotely suitable as a follow-up to M85 :rolleyes:
 
JuneBug said:
Sounds like old school, compound the snot out of it and glaze it over, looks good for a while.
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One thing I think a lot of people forget is that older paint technology requires older techniques and products. New paint technologies requires new products and techniquies. It is not a one technique fits all.



Using M85 on a hard laquer single stage with a 4-ply wool will finish down almost like #105 and a purple wool on some harder clears. It is amazing to see. Meguiar's understands these nuances and unfortunantly they can't seem to educate the old dogs with learning new tricks or products.
 
I dont think its meguiars fault. I think its the old dogs who dont want to learn new tricks type of situation.



Megs is one of the few manufacturers that really go out their way to educate the public on their products.
 
Dsoto87 said:
I dont think its meguiars fault. I think its the old dogs who dont want to learn new tricks type of situation.



Megs is one of the few manufacturers that really go out their way to educate the public on their products.
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You misunderstood what I was saying, sorry about that. No, like you I am saying that Meguiars goes out of its way with documentation, classes and videos (they do what they can), but the old dogs still wanna believe that things do not change.
 
howareb- That's a good point about how ss responds differently to aggressive stuff. Meg's #2 Fine Cut often finished out OK even by *hand* on ss and that was the old rotary-only stuff before the reformulated it.



But still...IME people working is autobody/paint supply places usually know *VERY* little about (expert level) detailing.
 
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