What is Carnauba Sap?

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carnauba sap

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Hello everyone!



I'm going to get right to the point, what is carnauba sap?



I enjoy Zymol products, but some of the terms they use to describe their products confuse me, specifically "carnauba sap."



Here is what I've gathered up on what it may be.



1. - As far as I'm concerned, "sap" is different than "wax" according to the Zymol website. (Go to the Zymol website, click the "News" link at the bottom of the page, then click on the "Carnauba" link at the bottom right, then click "Carnauba Wax Sapping")



2. - Here is the clincher, Vintage's ingredients on the Zymol website are listed as having 60% "carnauba sap/wax"?! Can anyone clarify?



3. - Royale's ingredients are plainly listed as "white carnauba sap", according to the Zymol website.



This is what I think, "white" carnauba the same as "sap" carnauba. I've come to this conclusion since sap and wax are used interchangeably when listed as ingredients. Or is there something I am missing?



I would like to hear your thoughts.
 
Symantics and advertising lingo/hype/techniques.



"Creating answers to the questions that were never asked" comes to mind when talking about many goods and services that are supposed to enhance our lives.

We all want a piece of the pie, and will make many funny claims to get people to spend their money on our supplies :).
 
I don't know the answer to this question, but I have one for you: why would you choose to make your user name carnauba sap if you have no clue what it is? :chuckle:
 
JimmyCutlass said:
I don't know the answer to this question, but I have one for you: why would you choose to make your user name carnauba sap if you have no clue what it is? :chuckle:
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I felt it was appropriate for the question I was asking. :)



@ MichaelSpoots - I'm sure we are all aware of the "Zymol hype", but I would still like to understand what this "sap" is and if Zymol relates it to "white" carnauba in any way.



Here is the thing I would like to buy one of Zymol products that contain this "sap" be it field glaze, or vintage, but I am hesitant because I don't know what "sap" is. I've already contacted Zymol via e-mail asking them what the difference is, and still have not received a reply, and I'm getting impatient for an answer, so I decided to try my luck here, before I even think about calling them and asking for an answer.



In short, I want to know what I am buying! :) :p
 
I hope you get a good answer!

A lot of times if I'm not good enough for them to reply to, then they are not good enough to earn my business :).

This is just a general thing, but it can be applied in your situation, where you didn't receive a response. Ain't that frustrating...
 
The only other company that seems to use the term



"Lucky for car enthusiasts, carnauba grows on trees. This premium wax is made from the sap of the Brazilian “Tree of Life,” also called the Carnauba Palm. The sap is produced by the leaves, not the trunk, so the leaves are harvested and processed to make a wax. Carnauba is used for automotive wax because it is all-natural and therefore will not react with paint. It makes a very hard shell over paint and diffuses UV rays to prevent oxidation. And its pores swell and close when exposed to water. Carnauba is graded according to the tree it came from and the color. #1 Brazilian Yellow Carnauba, like that found in Mothers California Gold natural Formula Pure Carnauba Wax, is the highest grade wax available."
 
Leadfootluke said:
If you don't know what it is, and they can't tell you.



Find another proven product.
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I was thinking that for a while, however I am already impressed with the products I have by Zymol. At first I was skeptical of their claims (who isn't) but after trying out Cleanse, Clear, Titanium & Glasur I can tell you that I am definitely not 100% disappointed, to say the least.



But it's this white/sap/ivory/whatever definition that is really bugging me. I've read so many things, "white is refined yellow", "white does not occur naturally", "white really means pale yellow", blah.. blah.. blah.. I wanted to hear an answer from the horse's mouth, in this case Zymol. I have contacted Paul Dalton @ Miracle Detail via e-mail asking him if he knows anything, hopefully he will reply with an answer. It's been 3 weeks since I asked Zymol about what I'm asking here, on Autopia, and they haven't replied yet, but they answered my first e-mail I sent them a while back, so maybe they never got around to it or something. Nonetheless, I can always call Zymol and ask, but I'm waiting for the time being.



At the end of the day though, all I know is that #1 yellow is the "best".



Jakerooni said:
The only other company that seems to use the term



"Lucky for car enthusiasts, carnauba grows on trees. This premium wax is made from the sap of the Brazilian “Tree of Life,” also called the Carnauba Palm. The sap is produced by the leaves, not the trunk, so the leaves are harvested and processed to make a wax. Carnauba is used for automotive wax because it is all-natural and therefore will not react with paint. It makes a very hard shell over paint and diffuses UV rays to prevent oxidation. And its pores swell and close when exposed to water. Carnauba is graded according to the tree it came from and the color. #1 Brazilian Yellow Carnauba, like that found in Mothers California Gold natural Formula Pure Carnauba Wax, is the highest grade wax available."
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Hmm. So as I understand, it's the sap that forms on the leaves that is eventually harvested and used for wax. That makes a bit more sense to me.



Thanks for that information.
 
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