Well spent two days detailing the Jetta....

MnRiverman

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A few things I noticed:



- 3M SMR leaves all kinds of dust all over the car - it's quite the pain in the ***.

- Use a paint cleanser/gloss after the 3M SMR. I almost didn't do the HD-Cleanse after the SMR, but boy, I did half the hood and the gloss it leaves is amazing, so I did the whole car.

- You can apply HD-Cleanse with an orbital buffer, although it is pretty hard because you'll find yourself buffing it too much and then it's hard to remove.

- Zymol Carbon removes like butter with a MicroFiber towel!

- I used two of my Viper MF towels during this detail session and I will never go back to a regular terry cloth towel ever again, these things are amazing, and they don't get contaminated like normal towels, especially when using Zymol wax.



The 3M SMR took me the better half of yesterday because honestly it wasn't working. I came up here and read some older threads about breaking it down and such, and I ended up realizing I wasn't using enough pressure (I was using a polishing pad) and in some spots I used the cutting pad also. In the end though, it sure did remove a lot of the spiderwebbing I had.



I then went over the whole car with Zymol HD-Cleanse and then with a layer of Zymol Carbon wax. The gloss is quite amazing, and the paint is buttery smooth and perfectly clean.



A tip to those who use Zymol waxes. Apply it in an even up and down motion, and then get a perfectly clean and soft terry cloth towel and in one big sweep, wipe it horizontally immediately after you applied the wax. I believe this lets it crystalize or something like that, but whatever it does, it works. Then I waited a minute (it was fairly cold here today even with my heater on so I gave the wax a bit longer to cure) and then took a MF towel and wiped it right off, it left no residue, only a perfect shine.



I now believe though that there is no way of getting a "perfect swirl free finish" because I noticed on a certain panel in direct sunlight there were some microscopic spiderwebbing that you could only see in certain angles of the light. Whatever, it may also just be some residue and I didn't want to use any QD so I could give the wax more time to bond with the paint (Zymol wax really needs to be applied when it's atleast 60 degrees out, otherwise it gets kinda quirky).



It was dark when I finished, so I didn't get any good pictures, but here is one I took with the car in the garage. the gloss sure is nice. BTW, the car is blue, although it looks black in this picture.



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- Anthony
 
adg44 said:
A few things I noticed:

I now believe though that there is no way of getting a "perfect swirl free finish" because I noticed on a certain panel in direct sunlight there were some microscopic spiderwebbing that you could only see in certain angles of the light. - Anthony



sorry, i must disagree.

swirls can be removed. It takes time to learn how to remove them, but they do come out as long as they are not in the paint.
 
NY detailer said:
sorry, i must disagree.

swirls can be removed. It takes time to learn how to remove them, but they do come out as long as they are not in the paint.



Maybe we aren't talking about the same thing, but I have never seen any car ever where when put in direct sunlight at an angle that there isn't some spiderwebbing or some super slight paint imperfection, it just seems the paint is so thin nowadays that whenever you touch it with anything it leaves a super fine scratch that it seems only my eyes notice. ;)



I do agree though, 90% of the spiderwebbing I had is gone, and I think the car looks great. :up



Thanks to all of you and your help and tips.
 
Your scaring me when you mention the "terry cloth towel"! Those things can be nasty! Hopefully that's not putting swirls back in your beautiful new finish. Use pure foam applicators. Their great!



And your right, it needs to be MUCH warmer than the weather probably is up there in Vermont to be waxing with Carnuba right now. Hope your garage is heated! Brrrrr!



I wish I had an answer for the dusty SMR problem. I haven't noticed the issue when I buff. Are you sure your pad isn't dirty or clogged up? Too much unused product at the edges of the pad?
 
Brad B. said:
Your scaring me when you mention the "terry cloth towel"! Those things can be nasty! Hopefully that's not putting swirls back in your beautiful new finish. Use pure foam applicators. Their great!

I didn't apply the wax with the towel.... I don't know if it's a terry cloth towel, it's just 100% cotton, white and from Ralph Lauren. :p I just use it to spread the wax softly after I apply it with the zymol wax applicator.





And your right, it needs to be MUCH warmer than the weather probably is up there in Vermont to be waxing with Carnuba right now. Hope your garage is heated! Brrrrr!



I'm in Virginia, it was 62 degrees yesterday, but it was only about 35 today. :) But yes, I have a heater in my garage.



I wish I had an answer for the dusty SMR problem. I haven't noticed the issue when I buff. Are you sure your pad isn't dirty or clogged up? Too much unused product at the edges of the pad? [/B]



I think I do need to clean off the pad, even though this was the first time I used it. I'll wash them all before I use them next time. But by dusty I mean that when it starts to dry and you keep buffing it, it dusts and gets everywhere in all the cracks and seams and everything.



- Anthony
 
Actually, I notice the same thing. That's how I judge that I have worked the SMR enough. I start to see fine powder residue.
 
Oh and I should probably add that I didn't work for "two days" straight in the normal sense. This was me waking up at 1:00, getting some lunch, then washing the car and starting the SMR Process and calling it a day at 7. Then today I woke up around 12 and finished by 5 after I finished the inside. So if I woke up at a normal hour like most people, I probably could have done this in one day. :D
 
adg44 said:
I didn't apply the wax with the towel.... I don't know if it's a terry cloth towel, it's just 100% cotton, white and from Ralph Lauren. :p I just use it to spread the wax softly after I apply it with the zymol wax applicator.



.......Ok, that's cool. Designer towels, to boot!





adg44 said:
I'm in Virginia, it was 62 degrees yesterday, but it was only about 35 today. :) But yes, I have a heater in my garage.



........Oooops, never knew my postal codes!





adg44 said:
I think I do need to clean off the pad, even though this was the first time I used it. I'll wash them all before I use them next time. But by dusty I mean that when it starts to dry and you keep buffing it, it dusts and gets everywhere in all the cracks and seams and everything.



.......I probaby go through about 5-6 microfibers when polishing off the SMR (or any wax or compound). This helps keep the build up to a minimum. I also cheat with a blower on a compressor. But YES, I know what you mean about residue after polishing!



BTW, the photo looks great, it looks like a mirror!:bow :bow
 
Nice looking Jetta, keep up the good work. I noticed the same thing about the spiderwebbing or micro scratches, that the paint gets from the litest of touches or even me just thinking about touching the paint. I think it is VW's paint.



Eric
 
Thanks for all the nice replies.



I'll take some pics tomorrow, errrr in the morning.



I hope I'll make some Zymol fans out of you guys. ;)



And if anyone is interested, the Jetta will be for sale very shortly. :)
 
adg, around how much do you think you will be asking for the Jetta? I think my dad may be interested in it.



Anyway, great finish. That car looks awesome.

:bow
 
Thanks for the props guys.



Today is the first day I took it out in the sun, and wow, when in direct sunlight the depth of the paint and the color is just gorgeous. I think a lot of this has to do with applying the HD-Cleanse with the PC, it really got the oils in there and enhanced the shine. It's basically like there is a sheet of glass covering the whole car the gloss is so nice. Galactic Blue is kinda interesting because in the dark it looks black, but in the sunlight it's an electric blue. Anyways, time to get that car back in the driveway and put the BMW back in the garage, so it doesn't feel neglected. ;)



I took some pictures yesterday evening, I put about 10 of them up on my website, which you can find here: http://home.earthlink.net/~adg44/VW/ in no real particular order, and if you want some BMW photos, they are here: http://home.earthlink.net/~adg44/BMW/



I'll like a couple of my favorite pictures however. :)



Here is with the hood open:

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The side of the car, please take note of the offroad lift package:

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Reflection off the trunk lid:

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And just incase there is any doubt about who makes this car.... :D

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Actually with this picture, right below the light on the bumper cover, someone scraped against me when I was parallel parked and scratched the paint. I hit it with a cutting pad and some SMR for about 5 minutes, working it all around and in, and then followed with HD-Cleanse and Carbon, and you can't even tell someone hit me. Filled it in very nicely.



OK, so that was more than a couple pictures, but what can ya do. :p



Just maybe, maybe, I can make some Zymol fans out of you guys. ;)



- Anthony
 
Great job!:bow



Those are the best Zymol pics I've seen in a long time(if ever!). I love VW/Audi paint, it's so perfect!:cool:



BTW, what do you use on your tires to keep them looking that great?? That's my idea of a perfect tire gloss!!:xyxthumbs



Keep it up!



:wavey
 
drewski59 said:
Great job!:bow



Those are the best Zymol pics I've seen in a long time(if ever!). I love VW/Audi paint, it's so perfect!:cool:



BTW, what do you use on your tires to keep them looking that great?? That's my idea of a perfect tire gloss!!:xyxthumbs



Keep it up!



:wavey



Thanks.



On the tires I use Stoner More Shine Less Time for Tires. Just one quick spray around the tire and it stays on for a long time. I also soap the tire with a sponge every time I wash the car.



Only problem is if I wash the car and then have to take it out that night, instead of driving the BMW, I don't use any tire spray, because unless it sits onvernight, it kicks some of the grease up onto the body, like on the lower part of the bumper, etc. However, it dries much faster in warmer weather.



- Anthony
 
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