Weird Clay problem

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brendans225

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I had a weird problem today while claying my car - the clay started to fall to bits and sorta like broke into little pieces (like it was disintegrating:scared: )........anyone else had this problem?



I was using the pinnacle ultra poly clay with wolfgang clay lubricant





Thanks,

Brendan
 
Yeah Meguiars clay use to do the same to me, it just soaked up a lot of fluid and then started coming apart in a gooey flaky mess. I think it was the age of the clay. The Pepboys by me use to have a lot of dusty old Meguiars clay boxes.
 
thanks for the link Red :) ..................the clay was not old, just pulled it out of the packaging today.....



Cheers,

Brendan
 
This has happened to me in the past. I've seen some posters speculate that the clay and the chosen lube just aren't playing well together, and that may be part of the problem. My opinion, though, is that most of this effect comes from kneading lubricant into the clay. If you finish claying a panel, and fold/knead the clay immediately while still wet with lube, you're basically kneading some moisture into the middle of the clay. Over time, I think this causes the clay to start to degrade and fall apart.



These days, when I finish a panel, I tap the clay on a clean towel (or more often, my shirt) just to remove excess lube before I fold/knead. Since I started doing this, I've never had clay disintegrate on me (a variety of clays and lubes, mix-n-match).



Now, this may be no different than the tiger-repelling rock I carry in my pocket. I can't be sure that it's the rock, but I haven't been attacked by a tiger since I started carrying it . . . Sort of the same thing with the clay. I can't prove that my "dry before kneading" is what has prevented the problem from cropping up on me again; all I can offer is that it seems to have worked for me.



Along with the rock. :D



Tort
 
I think tort is right.



I've had this happen while using sonus green clay with glyde lube. I was using lots of lube and kneading it into the clay. After a while it would start to crumble.
 
NickelPlated.45 said:
I think tort is right.
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It happens . . . infrequently, but it does happen. :D



Tort
 
NickelPlated.45 said:
I think tort is right.



I've had this happen while using sonus green clay with glyde lube. I was using lots of lube and kneading it into the clay. After a while it would start to crumble.
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I use Sonus Glyde and Sonus green all the time, never had that happen.

Maybe it has something to do with the temp. outside when detailing or the temp. or humidity of where the clay and lube is being stored?



Either way it's a weird problem.
 
ConglomrationAL said:
I use Sonus Glyde and Sonus green all the time, never had that happen.

Maybe it has something to do with the temp. outside when detailing or the temp. or humidity of where the clay and lube is being stored?



Either way it's a weird problem.
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It happened the first time i ever used clay. Everyone kept saying "use plenty of lube or QD" so i think i might have went a little overboard. I like the way sonus glyde smells though.
 
thanks for the feedback guys :)



The clay was new as i had just opened it.



I definitely used heaps of lube, and as someone suggested, this may have caused the clay to break up prematurely - towards the end half the clay litterally fell on the ground as i was going over a panel - needless to say, i gave up



i will give the drying in between re - kneading the clay a go next time and see how it goes :)



Thanks,

Brendan
 
I've definitely had this happen when using lots of lube and folding frequently (probably too frequently). It's like the clay turns into a thousand sheets stacked with lube in between them. It just shears off in bits and pieces and no longer has a smooth surface.



That's on "smooth clay". Clay that is not smooth, like some of the Zaino Z18 that I've seen, kind of does this after a while of using lube, but will dry out and work properly again if you leave it in the sun for a while. BTW, what I mean about Z18 is that is is porous, as opposed to slick and smooth like Mother's clay and some grey japanese clay I got from a local detail supply house.



Brian.
 
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