Wax that contain cleaners..

joe.p

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If a wax that contains cleaners and they can't be layered because of their cleaning abiliatys why use them?

Also when would you need to use this type of wax, and what for?
 
joe.p said:
If a wax that contains cleaners and they can't be layered because of their cleaning abiliatys why use them?

Also when would you need to use this type of wax, and what for?

Joe

I use a cleaner wax kind of like an AIO for cars that need a little help from oxidation and the likes of that...its designed to clean the surface and leave some protection at the same time...AIO is about the same
 
Anyone who layers AIO doesn't understand what it does. That product is probably 90% cleaner and 10% protection. I would use it in a heart beat for cleaning oxidation, but if I wanted the car protected then I would never stop there. I defintely wouldn't use another layer of AIO thinking that I am adding to the protection factor either. :lol:

Most liquid waxes have some cleaning properties to them due to the solvents in them that are needed to soften the carnauba and make it usable among other reasons. They aren't meant to be cleaner waxes, but they will create issues with layering.

The layering of waxes isn't really something that is a mainstream activity anyway. It is something that a very few crazy people do. :naughty The rest of the world (at least the part who know how to wax their car) just wax once in awhile and call it good. They don't worry about layering. Those of us who know what layering different things can do are a minority in the car care world.
 
So lets we have car with paint in good condition,then a cleaner wax would be sufficient before applying a lsp,why wouldn't someone just use a fine polish?. do i toss the megs CW that came w/the clay or save it and use it on a not so desirable finish..
 
If the car doesn't need a cleaner wax, then I wouldn't use a cleaner wax. If the paint is in good condition then I would just clay and wax it. I guess it depends on what tools you have available and what the customer is paying for.
 
When I find a cleaner/wax that will *remove* minor marring and swirls, that will become my product of choice. I'm about ready to move over to the one-step side ASAP. Why? No matter how careful I am with my washing procedures, I manage to instill very minor micro marring in my black truck. It shows after about a four or five washes. If I apply wax every month or so, durablity is not an issue. I'm going to give Meguiar's ColorX a try. It has cleaner, diminishing abrasives and a combination of polymers and carnauba. It might be just what my three-year-old black Hemi needs.

I could layer a *pure* wax or sealant over it, but I have found that layering just isn't worth the effort unelss it is for a show car. Then one more layer over the original wax or sealant is enough -- that layer being carnauba.

Tom :cool:
 
tguil said:
When I find a cleaner/wax that will *remove* minor marring and swirls, that will become my product of choice.

Tom :cool:

Well, if you are really looking for a good cleaner wax that has corrective properties you could try Zaino's ZPC Fusion. It will correct more than minor marring. Then leave the condition of the paint ready for any LSP. It is not pad dependant but the more aggressive the pad the more aggressive the product. Have read some sterling reviews of its results and have from personal experienced the same.

If you are looking for an over the counter type product the Power Polish from Mother's has been mentioned, just lately, on this forum as a polish that can do more than just clean. I have been reading on forums that the Power Polish can remove swirls if used in conjunction with an aggressive pad and PC. I thought it was a good cleaner. I did not try to remove anything with it. Luckily I did not need it at the time. Will try, when the time arises, to see just how true these reports have been

Just for your information.
 
I think Tom is looking for a one step product that will remove some defects and still leave decent protection.
A few that come to mind besides the Meguiar's Color-X he mentioned:

Meguiar's NXT Tech wax. Probably hides more than it removes, but still looks good.

Meguiar's Medallion Premium Paint Protection. This may not be available anymore.

Poorboy's Polish with Carnauba.

I have used all of the above at one time or another. (A whole bunch of others, too,:))

Poorboy's Polish with Sealant. This one I haven't used, but I have heard good things about it.

Charles
 
CharlesW said:
I think Tom is looking for a one step product that will remove some defects and still leave decent protection.
A few that come to mind besides the Meguiar's Color-X he mentioned:

Meguiar's NXT Tech wax. Probably hides more than it removes, but still looks good.

Meguiar's Medallion Premium Paint Protection. This may not be available anymore.

Poorboy's Polish with Carnauba.

I have used all of the above at one time or another. (A whole bunch of others, too,:))

Poorboy's Polish with Sealant. This one I haven't used, but I have heard good things about it.

Charles
If you look around their are a few places that carry Meguiars MPP,I,m not sure the effort would be worth it. After using many of PBs products, imho this would be the way to go and Steve is always available if you should have any Questions.
 
joe.p said:
do i toss the megs CW that came w/the clay or save it and use it on a not so desirable finish..

Save it to use on your door jams and under the hood and trunk. Or use it on your quickie jobs.
 
joe.p said:
do i toss the megs CW that came w/the clay or save it and use it on a not so desirable finish..
There was some guy giving away products that he didn't need/use in another thread. Might be an idea for a way to pass on the Meg's CW.:D

Charles
 
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