Blackmirror
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Can someone recommend a good wax for winter that has durability without having to reapply it like every 3 weeks? And would you use a paste or liquid wax?
Wax for winter
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BookemDano
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Have you thought about a sealant instead of a carnauba wax? Zaino Z5 or Z2, AIO, or Menzerna FMJ? I've got Z5 (2 coats) + Z2 (1 coat) on my Dolphin Grey (medium-dark grey) '02 Audi A4. Looks nice and provides great protection. Durability is tops.
Regards,
Dan.
Regards,
Dan.
My advice would be to buy a sealant, IMHO the two stand-out products with a proven record of superior durability are Zaino and Klasse. Either product would be a very good choice, for example, I've seen 6 layers of Zaino last for 9 months on a daily driver, parked outside 24/7. If you are determined to use a wax product, try looking at Collinite 476.
Just my 2 cents....
Just my 2 cents....
03COBRA
I miss my 03 Cobra......
I'm wondering the same thing. My gf's truck is parked under a tree that is very low everyday. I can't get any beading at all, even after a week. Is there anything I can do? Don't mean to hijack the thread, some other people might be in my situation!
imported_nowaterno
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I have used 1Z Glanz for the last couple of years and like it for the combination of ease of application and durability. I put it on in October and it still looks good in April! Takes all of about an hour to do the whole car
imported_NYV6Coupe
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I'm trying 3 layers of Collinite #476s this winter.
Spilchy
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I use Collinite 476s. Much more durable than #16. I used it today on one car and will use it tomorrow on another car I am detailing. My three cars get it for the winter as well.
I also refinished my front door of my home. Sanded, stained and topped with 5 coats of marine grade polyurethane (put on 5 days apart). I wax my front door with Collinite 476s as well every few months.
I also refinished my front door of my home. Sanded, stained and topped with 5 coats of marine grade polyurethane (put on 5 days apart). I wax my front door with Collinite 476s as well every few months.
Accumulator
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Alan81- The 476S/#16 thing can be funny- I've had some vehicles where there was a *big* difference in durability and others where the two were sorta similar (but yeah, still a slight edge to Collinite). Maybe there's some other factor at work (contamination, environment, wash, etc.) :nixweiss
Layering these waxes can be sorta tricky...the spit-shine method seems to help avoid disturbing the previous application. I'd still like to see/do a controlled comparo where half a hood is "layered" and the other half isn't, but I never have a good test subject handy. The far-less-than-controlled tests
I've done indicate that you *can* layer them. Additional applications a week apart on one panel lasted more than the one extra week before the beading dropped off. Yeah, I know about beading as in indicator 
Layering these waxes can be sorta tricky...the spit-shine method seems to help avoid disturbing the previous application. I'd still like to see/do a controlled comparo where half a hood is "layered" and the other half isn't, but I never have a good test subject handy. The far-less-than-controlled tests
I've done indicate that you *can* layer them. Additional applications a week apart on one panel lasted more than the one extra week before the beading dropped off. Yeah, I know about beading as in indicator 
Accumulator said:
You have to wonder just how durable a last step product is if you can remove it just by applying another layer on top of it. If a product can hold up to sun, rain, snow, etc, it should be able to hold up to another layer being applied.
If these products are so delicate that they can be removed simply by applying another layer how does anyone expect them to hold up to the abuse that cars are exposed to daily?
Accumulator
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SteveT- To be perfectly honest (and I was trying to *not* turn this into a :argue about layering, hence my "can be sorta tricky" ) IMO, yeah, you *can* layer many/most waxes just fine. As you imply, the solvent action of subsequent layers doesn't compromise the previous one(s); the products hold up better than that. But for people who are convinced that it *is* a problem, the spit-shining should help allay their fears. And I do find that it works surprisingly well (i.e., there's a discernable difference/improvement over "regular" application) with some waxes.
) IMO, yeah, you *can* layer many/most waxes just fine. As you imply, the solvent action of subsequent layers doesn't compromise the previous one(s); the products hold up better than that. But for people who are convinced that it *is* a problem, the spit-shining should help allay their fears. And I do find that it works surprisingly well (i.e., there's a discernable difference/improvement over "regular" application) with some waxes.Glossequation
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#16 topped with #26
imported_memnuts
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Zaino or Klasse now and forget about it until next Spring. 
imported_NYV6Coupe
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Collinite #476s is supposed to be detergent proof so I washed a small part of my hood with Dawn & parked it outside in the rain after voting.
The rain is a light mist so the surface beads easily & the hood looks uniform with regard to beading. If the wax stands-up to dish wash soap I feel pretty good that winter durability will be above average but time'll tell.
I inquired & Mike Oczkowski, Collinite CS, responded:
"With the winter coming up I would recommend using our #476s Super Doublecoat Paste Wax.
The #476s provides the best protection and durability. The #845
is basically the liquid version of the #476s and is easier to apply and remove.
You probably get 1-2 months more protection using the #476s. Both products do contain petroleum distillates and they are pure waxes, not cleaner/waxes.
You can layer the coats of waxes, we usually recommend
waiting at least one hour in between applications.
Both the #845 and #476s do contain solvent so it might do some light cleaning if any.
Applying in layers will not effect the original layer applied. To completely remove the wax from the finish you would have to
apply a prep-solv".
The rain is a light mist so the surface beads easily & the hood looks uniform with regard to beading. If the wax stands-up to dish wash soap I feel pretty good that winter durability will be above average but time'll tell.
I inquired & Mike Oczkowski, Collinite CS, responded:
"With the winter coming up I would recommend using our #476s Super Doublecoat Paste Wax.
The #476s provides the best protection and durability. The #845
is basically the liquid version of the #476s and is easier to apply and remove.
You probably get 1-2 months more protection using the #476s. Both products do contain petroleum distillates and they are pure waxes, not cleaner/waxes.
You can layer the coats of waxes, we usually recommend
waiting at least one hour in between applications.
Both the #845 and #476s do contain solvent so it might do some light cleaning if any.
Applying in layers will not effect the original layer applied. To completely remove the wax from the finish you would have to
apply a prep-solv".
My best results come from layering during my wax season from April to Nov. I just put on my final coat yesterday. I will only top my carnauba resolution with a qd. Usually I'll get through winter and will still have wax on my paint when my new season starts in April (that is....if I manage to stay out of the car wash!!).
In my region, winters can get well below 35 degrees, and since I don't have the luxury (or time during the winter) of a heated garage, waxing becomes unlikely since it will be too cold out for the wax to cooperate optimally.
If you're topping carnauba, then it should either be a qd or something that will not remove the wax layers.
In my region, winters can get well below 35 degrees, and since I don't have the luxury (or time during the winter) of a heated garage, waxing becomes unlikely since it will be too cold out for the wax to cooperate optimally.
If you're topping carnauba, then it should either be a qd or something that will not remove the wax layers.