using ONR exclusively

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bdock

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I'm interested in starting a mobile detailing business and am researching the EPA regulations regarding water runoff and wanted to pose a few questions to the mobile detailers here. I don't think this is enforced much in my area but I would want to comply with all of the regulations just for peace of mind and also as a marketing strategy. The Vacuboom and mat systems can be pretty expensive and would be a lot of maintenance, setup time, etc. I've seen a lot of people on the site using rinseless washes and thought this might be another option. The startup costs would be minimal compared to a pressure washer and reclaim setup.

I polished my truck about a week ago and I just tried a rinseless wash (DP 4-in-1) for the first time the other day and was pretty happy with the results and it took me the same amount of time as a normal wash.

So are there any mobile detailers out there exclusively using a rinseless wash like ONR, or 4-in-1? What if you get there and the car is just too dirty for a rinseless wash (i don't really know what's too dirty)? Do you find it hard to convince people this can replace a normal hose or pressure washer wash?

Also, am I correct that using a rinseless wash would meet EPA regs as long as nothing gets to a storm drain (this was my first time using it and i was pretty messy)? Would cleaning really bad wheels with a wheel cleaner and then "rinsing" with a pump sprayer be ok, again as long as nothing runs to the storm drains?

Sorry for so many ?'s at once. Thanks if anyone can provide any advice.
 
funkdock said:
So are there any mobile detailers out there exclusively using a rinseless wash like ONR, or 4-in-1?
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since you asked that question I know you have not searched for your answers



do an advanced search for "ONR" with the username "Scottwax" and all your questions will be answered(after alot of reading)





:welcome
 
the problem with the rinseless is most cars you will be detailing will be filthy and require pressure and water to clean correctly. the no rinse is really for cars with very little dirt on paint.
 
trhland said:
the problem with the rinseless is most cars you will be detailing will be filthy and require pressure and water to clean correctly. the no rinse is really for cars with very little dirt on paint.
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I think ScottWax uses ONR almost exclusively. If it's filthy, just give it a presoak and then have at it!!!
 
I used ONR two days ago on my FILTHY salt covered car, and after presoaking it and using 5 mitts, it looks great. I'm really impressed with what it can handle.



Steve
 
trhland said:
the problem with the rinseless is most cars you will be detailing will be filthy and require pressure and water to clean correctly. the no rinse is really for cars with very little dirt on paint.
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That statement is only correct if the vehicle is caked in mud. I may have to drag out a hose and pre-rinse or conventionally wash cars a couple times a year.



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Single bucket method, no pre-rinsing or pre-soaking. I've got more pics but I have to head out the door in a few minutes to work.
 
thanks for the replies guys. And thanks for posting the photos Scottwax, i've read a TON of your posts on ONR and that's what really made me think this was viable. I just used the DP rinseless on a friend's truck that hadn't been washed in probably 3 months and it worked great. Driving around today I don't think I saw a single car that was too dirty for a rinseless wash.

One question that i couldn't really find an answer for -- do you see any advantage to using RO/DI water with ONR? I'm using one for a large saltwater reef tank so making a few gallons for washes would be simple. I'm guessing it really wouldn't make any difference with a rinseless wash, plus I'd probably be using more water than a hose and bucket wash just to make a few gallons of RO/DI. Guess I just answered my own question.
 
Since you are drying each section immediately, I don't see any advantage to using RO/DI water vs tap. Basically, if you would drink the water, you can use it with ONR.
 
For those of us in the Southeast drought do use DI and retain the receipt along with the empty DI jugs in case the water police stop over. :rules:



ONR & DI = clean machine! :goodjob
 
on the topic of exclusively using ONR, how are people getting filthy wheel wells and hard to reach insides of multi-spoked rims? I can't see not pressure washing (or at least using a hose) to get caked on stuff from the wheel wells, but thats just me...



Pete
 
PaintPolisher said:
For those of us in the Southeast drought do use DI and retain the receipt along with the empty DI jugs in case the water police stop over. :rules:



ONR & DI = clean machine! :goodjob
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DI = Distilled?



If so, what does RO stand for?
 
bert31 said:
DI = Distilled?



If so, what does RO stand for?
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Didn't mean to confuse





Yes -- DI = Distilled water and RO = Reverse Osmosis filtered water







I use a pump up garden sprayer to mist the wheel well [with the ONR mixture] then follow with a long bristle soft body brush used for rims, tires and wheel wells only. Final wipe down with Micro Fiber mitt.
 
AMDin93103 said:
....No . . .
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..Yes....



"Deionized water (DI water or de-ionized water; also spelled deionised water, see spelling differences) is water that lacks ions, such as cations from sodium, calcium, iron, copper and anions such as chloride and bromide. This means it has been purified from all other ions except H3O+ and OH−, but it may still contain other non-ionic types of impurities such as organic compounds. This type of water is produced using an ion exchange process. Deionized water is similar to distilled water, in that it is useful for scientific experiments where the presence of impurities may be undesirable."
 
ajbarnes said:
..Yes....



"Deionized water (DI water or de-ionized water; also spelled deionised water, see spelling differences) is water that lacks ions, such as cations from sodium, calcium, iron, copper and anions such as chloride and bromide. This means it has been purified from all other ions except H3O+ and OH−, but it may still contain other non-ionic types of impurities such as organic compounds. This type of water is produced using an ion exchange process. Deionized water is similar to distilled water, in that it is useful for scientific experiments where the presence of impurities may be undesirable."
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:)

I know you were correct AJ, I was correcting PaintPolisher! Sorry for any confusion.
 
HAN said:
on the topic of exclusively using ONR, how are people getting filthy wheel wells and hard to reach insides of multi-spoked rims? I can't see not pressure washing (or at least using a hose) to get caked on stuff from the wheel wells, but thats just me...



Pete
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Optimum Wheel Cleaner (fully compatible with ONR), No Rinse and a few brushes...



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I very rarely have to even use the wheel cleaner.
 
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