Underage Drunk Driver flees scene after accident 1 mile from me

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stilez

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19 year old kid lives around the block from me. Last year he was drinking and driving, drives into a deli! at 3am. Flees the scene, walks to his house 7 miles away. Owner of the Deli (brother used to work there) gets there at 4 to find a car sticking out of his Deli. Driver is convicted of DWI.



Now, the other night, driving drunk AGAIN, at 19, nonetheless, pulls out and has a motorcycle run into the side of the car. He gets out and tells a bystander to call the cops (as hes on the phone). Bystander asks, "Aren't you on the phone with them now?" replies "Nope, with my friend, I'm outta here". Takes off and leaves this motorcycle driver dying on the pavement. The cops search on quad and with dogs and end up finding him and arresting him.



After speaking with locals, they noted he got out jail and went to another party the same night and was joking about the whole situation! Turns out, the motorcycle driver died today. This kid goes away for 12 years minimum.





This situation really burns me up inside. I'm glad I don't go to local parties, I woulda ripped his head off for his actions. Full story:





http://www.newsday.com/news/printed...840jul04,0,5137268.story?coll=ny-linews-print
 
12 years isn't enough.



Similar situation here. Some idiot 20-year-old woman gets nailed for DUI. 10 days later, she is drunk again, going the wrong way on a freeway, hits a van and kills a 13-year-old passenger in the van. Even worse, one of her equally idiot friends says in the paper something like "she's really a sweet girl and doesn't have a drinking problem".



We are not serious enough about drinking and driving in this country when 17,000 people a year die in alcohol related accidents.
 
They had a whole writeup about it in the local newspaper. There were over 100 drunk driving arrests on July 4th weekend for Long Island.





Even worse, there was a similar situation a couple days ago. 24 year old driver driving with a .28 BAC! on the wrong way on the freeway. Head-on collosion with a limo. Kills the driver and flower girl from wedding and injures the rest. Even worse, the mom held her daughter's decapitated head on the side of the road awaiting the police. And yes, he had prior records of drinking and driving.



The best has to be Ohio...if you have a DWI/DUI on your record, you automatically get a neon orange or yellow license plate. How's that for pointing out a$$holes.



All this really gets me ticked...
 
I don't even want to get into this. I had a friend of some friends get killed by a drunk driver this past may a week before their prom.



The kid that was drunk waited 2 hours and 45 minutes before recieving an alcohol test. He had some in his system at that point, but wasn't legally toxicated (no I don't understand NYS "no tolerance" law for underaged drinkers that isn't set at ZERO). Refused a breathalyzer test at the scene. Charges were dropped against him and his records sealed.



The kid may never forget but he's going to go on with his life, but her parents aren't. :(
 
OUI/DWI, espicially for underage drivers, is a tough issue. On one hand, as an 18 year old, its blatantly apparent to me that .08 is too drunk to drive, regardless if you're 18, 21 or 65. Busting kids for a .01, on the other hand, is rediculous.



I feel that the .08 limit should be applied to everyone, but that the punishments should be vastly different than they are now. Rather than suspending licenses, which isn't gonna stop a determened drunk from driving, first time offenders should get automatic DD plates, and interlock devices. Also, there needs to be some sort of system set up so that offenders do not feel the incentive to hit and run.



Many colleges now have a setup where you can't get in trouble for going to the hospital drunk - yes, its an imperfect system, but it beats a string of alcohol poisonings. Perhaps a similar incentive system could be set up for drunk drivers who hit someone and don't run. Yes, I know that an incentive system for drunk drivers is not a politically advantageous concept, but if it saves lives, the end justifies the means.





P.S. I hope the kid fries, most guys around this age group drink to get loaded, but then again, 95+% are smart enough to stay off the roads, myself included.
 
I'm glad to hear the kid will be paying some time for his trouble. I avoid the drink like the plague, so I can't really say much, except most underage drinkers drink to get drunk, and most states don't have the balls to enforce underage drinking. It's depressing.
 
Here in Australia the limit is .05, i.e. if you blow .05 you are busted, so you have got to be below that. If you are a taxi driver or in your first 3 years (umm, it might be 2 years) of holding a driver's license you have to be .00. We also have Random Breath Tests or Booze Buses. They are mobile units which take only a few minutes to set-up and they stop all cars and test the drivers.



I enjoy a drink and my routine every Sunday with my wife is to go out to have lunch and we share 1 bottle of red wine. She gets about 2/3 of the bottle as I drive. About 8 months back I got pulled up by a booze bus and tested. They detected alcohol in my system, told me it was quite low and recommended I go straight home and not drive for the rest of the day.



After that experience I bought a personal Breathalyser. If you drink alcohol these are a must for every driver. It is very enlightening to see how much alcohol you have in your system, how it affects males & females so differently and allows you to make an informed decision.
 
The best has to be Ohio...if you have a DWI/DUI on your record, you automatically get a neon orange or yellow license plate. How's that for pointing out a$$holes.
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What a great idea! Every state should do that.
 
GSRstilez said:
The best has to be Ohio...if you have a DWI/DUI on your record, you automatically get a neon orange or yellow license plate. How's that for pointing out a$$holes....
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Well, I don't think they actually issue all that many of the DUI plates. A *lot* of people get busted for DUI in our county but I've only seen *one* of those plates. I think they only issue them after a certain number of offenses or something like that.
 
First offense should be mandatory jail time and their vehicle impounded for at least 90 days (plus they have to pay the impound fee). 2nd offense, 6 months in jail and they lose their car and license permanently.
 
that is messed up. something similar happened here in hawaii a few years ago. underage kid gets drunk, crashes into another car, kills the driver. i forgot what punishment the kid got, but i do know that the family of the other driver went after the establishments that sold alcohol to the kid and sued them quite a bit for failure in enforcing the drinking age law.
 
Accumulator said:
Well, I don't think they actually issue all that many of the DUI plates. A *lot* of people get busted for DUI in our county but I've only seen *one* of those plates. I think they only issue them after a certain number of offenses or something like that.
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Thanks for the clarification...My source was all hearsay.
 
Corey Bit Spank said:
I don't even want to get into this. I had a friend of some friends get killed by a drunk driver this past may a week before their prom.



The kid that was drunk waited 2 hours and 45 minutes before recieving an alcohol test. He had some in his system at that point, but wasn't legally toxicated (no I don't understand NYS "no tolerance" law for underaged drinkers that isn't set at ZERO). Refused a breathalyzer test at the scene. Charges were dropped against him and his records sealed.



The kid may never forget but he's going to go on with his life, but her parents aren't. :(
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That right there sounds weird :werd: Knowing many P.O. and dealing with the results of accidents something else must be going on behind the scenes because there is a way to back track the level of ETOH in your blood because your body has a set time to get rid of it.So waiting would not have vioded the results.with the case being sealed I'm sure there is MUCH MCUH more going on then meets the eye.
 
holland_patrick said:
That right there sounds weird :werd: Knowing many P.O. and dealing with the results of accidents something else must be going on behind the scenes because there is a way to back track the level of ETOH in your blood because your body has a set time to get rid of it.So waiting would not have vioded the results.with the case being sealed I'm sure there is MUCH MCUH more going on then meets the eye.
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I don't think there's any way to determine exactly how much ETOH was in your body because it depends on many factors.



I have a story as well though: my brother was in an accident where a drunk driver ran a red light. Luckily he was okay, but the car was totaled. Instead of stopping the guy went to nearest gas station and got some food instead of checking on my brother. By the time the cops got there 2 hours later, he was under the legal limit. Also my brother had two witnesses, and since one said he would testify, he simply let the other guy go. In the end, when court time came the witness decided that he wasn't sure what happened. Somehow the blame was placed on my brother. don't know how that happened, maybe because he was young and driving late or some racial issue, but things are just f'd ud sometimes.

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Y'know, myself and lots of fine people I know, including my parents, have been very lucky that WE haven't caused these tragedies. I stopped drinking and driving YEARS ago, like 20 years ago. But I was lucky, and my dad was lucky, and my grandfather, and a lot of other people.



Let's just spread the attitude, among ourselves and everyone we know, that it's unconscionable to put ourselves in a position that we could cause tragedy through our thoughtlessness. The buzz isn't worth it. If you want to drink, have a couple beers or glasses of wine at home.





Tom
 
GSRstilez said:
They had a whole writeup about it in the local newspaper. There were over 100 drunk driving arrests on July 4th weekend for Long Island.





Even worse, there was a similar situation a couple days ago. 24 year old driver driving with a .28 BAC! on the wrong way on the freeway. Head-on collosion with a limo. Kills the driver and flower girl from wedding and injures the rest. Even worse, the mom held her daughter's decapitated head on the side of the road awaiting the police. And yes, he had prior records of drinking and driving.



The best has to be Ohio...if you have a DWI/DUI on your record, you automatically get a neon orange or yellow license plate. How's that for pointing out a$$holes.



All this really gets me ticked...
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Yeah, this was in Meadow Brook Parkway like 2am-ish right? I was at the parkway too, but 45 min before that tradgic happened.
 
Not to bring up an old topic......



Back in 1998, It was a week from graduation (HS) alot of students were heading to the lake to have a party. Curvy, 2 lane road...... Driver had been drinking and my buddy in the passenger seat. Took a turn WAY WAY too fast.....they were in a Jeep Wrangler........

Flipped the jeep several times and into a tree, my friend, a passenger, was thrown throught he hardtop and the jeep landed on him. He died instantly.



Driver had no injuries.......I never did like the driver, we all were in vocational school together..

He got off with a DWI ticket.

Then back to school, he acted like nothing was wrong..........all 1 week from graduation.....
 
TexasTB,



I had a similar situation at our school. The typical jock, most popular, very wealthy kid was driving around in his new Prelude bought by his daddy and was showing off to some girls riding in his car. He wanted to see how fast he could go in reverse and ended up going into the girls ditch in front of her house and hit the cement wall by her driveway surrounding a large pipe. One of the girls flew out the back window and hit this cement wall and forever will be changed. She is a whole different person after this accident, and still he walked around like nothing happened...ridiculous....I almost feel embarrassed that I was once his friend and rode around with him. (He was a year ahead of me so of course I felt cool being with him..until he did this)
 
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